I assume it didn’t hurt when the temp was on. Since it is only on with temp cement and started hurting when the perm was placed I think I’d take it off put on a new temp and see how it does. If it calms down then it is probably the crown. If it doesn’t resolve it may be a pulpitis(trauma from the preperation can cause it).
Why no root canal? If it was my tooth I’d get a root canal v. an extraction. Of course I’ve had six in my life with no problems and have done a couple of thousand of them.
Loosing the second molar reduces your chewing a bit. Loosing the first molar is a much bigger deal. Lower first molar is the largest tooth in your mouth and gives you about half your chewing on that side.
actually it did hurt with the temp also, kinda in the same spot
I really don’t like the idea of this fake stuff in my tooth, fake things in my root… I worry things will go wrong and get worse and that in 10 years they will say oh guda whatever they put in there causes cancer or will make you sick. or they will make a mistake, or drill too deep.
just this fake crown is very annoying to me. I also have hear a lot of horror stories. I just feel like I shouldn’t mess with my teeth. I made a big mistake getting the crowns.
I was told 10 years ago I needed on and said no and I was fine for 10 years. I saw my son get them and it seemed like no big deal so with the dentist told me I needed them I was ok whatever. my tooth really didn’t bother me but I had the insurance and wanted to be a responsible adult
I can see how loosing this one would be a bigger deal than the back one… if I could get an easy fix id do it… like I was thinking maybe he can just drill it down around the sides or something? I don’t think he agrees
Obviously you shouldnt mess with your teeth* for no reason*, but if you have a problem, it needs treatment. Ignoring a cavity and infected pulp in a tooth isn’t an option. Best case, it hurts like hell until you capitulate, by which time it may be too late to save the tooth. Worst case, the infection progresses into an abscess, then septicaemia, then it kills you.
There’s a mountain of bullshit on the internet about root canals. Listen to your dentist.
It may be that the tissues underlying the tooth are inflamed or infected - and the swelling from this lifts the tooth up just a little, meaning it gets bashed by the opposing tooth every time you chew, making the problem worse.
If it’s just inflammation, take ibuprofen to bring it down. If it’s a minor infection, you might need antibiotics (get your dentist to diagnose) - in either case, try not to chew anything hard until it settles down.
I had this just about a month ago - really painful, sudden-onset toothache - the dentist said there was an abscess and gave me antibiotics - this settled it down, but on a return visit, he recommended a root canal, which has now been completed. He says the prognosis for the tooth isn’t a guaranteed success, because of the treated abscess, but it seems to be OK.
There really aren’t a lot of options - it’s either root canal or extraction in most cases. Bullshit scare stories on the internet based on ignorance and centuries-outdated fringe theories will not help you - but modern dentistry might.
Exactly my count, although my wisdom teeth were extracted, one by one, decades ago. Two more molars were taken recently to avoid the tedium of root canal; one lost several years after root canal (with badly fitted crown?)
And I have little problem, often unaware of missing teeth while eating.
I did have pain near the ear for a while; took antibiotics for ear infection; finally contacted an ear specialist who soon figured out the problem wasn’t in the ear at all, but the nearby temporomandibular joint (or whatever it’s called) which was stressed because I was eating with my jaw misbalanced! That tipoff must have been enough for my subconscious, as the pain hasn’t recurred despite that I’ve not consciously changed my chewing.
Well, you’re right and you’re wrong.
You’re wrong, very very wrong, about the “natural” aspect of things - that’s bullshit and woo. If your tooth has decayed or your roots get infected, than it’s root canal or yanking that shit out. Anything else is fairy tale and magic.
Or you could learn to live with constant ear splitting pain I suppose. Hey, people have done that for centuries !
But crowns and root canals are not The Devil, by any stretch. They will kill the tooth, which means that ultimately they’re only a temporary fix until the fake gets chomped down, since it can’t regenerate itself any more. Since that “temporary” can last 20, 30 years ? It’s good 'nuff for all in tents sieve porpoises.
It won’t make you sick, won’t give you cancer or whatever the crap you might have read on the interwebs. It’s just “plastic” (I know it’s not actually plastic, but the material they use is completely inert). It’s not any more dangerous than a surgical pin, a piercing, a breast implant, a silicon bead or whatever else inert material you might want to put inside your body for whatever reason.
Don’t. Tell your dentist. They’ll know what to do. “Pulling it” will most probably cause infection and abscess, and if it hurts there might already be a pocket of bacteria under it to begin with (a dead tooth shouldn’t feel anything - the pain is probably in your gum). Amateur home surgery is a **bad **idea, do we really have to tell you this ?
I’m not aware of any case of a dental implant, filling, crown, root canal, or any other dental device causing cancer or making someone ill in the long run. Bad dentistry can lead to all sorts of problems, but that’s a matter of competence not the safety of the devices. Maybe it’s happened somewhere, sometime, but it’s not a reasonable fear compared to the problems and inconveniences of living with no teeth. Not that there aren’t perfectly happy people with no teeth, but when they get some in the end they always seem to be happier. You’ve opted for a partial and you’ll be better off with that than nothing.
So what was the original reason for the crown? Was it due to active decay, infection, replacing old work, a new fracture? Might help me understand what is going on.
You aren’t messing with your teeth you are trying to fix a problem.
The filling material used in root canals is gutta percha(a natural rubber) it is very safe, never heard of anyone having a problem with it. Root canals don’t cause cancer. Can they fail ten years down the road? Sure, but they can also last for years. Mine are 40, 37, 35, 22, 15 and 3 years old. no problems with any of them. Note three were done prior to my becoming a dentist and three after. I’ve done root canals on my wife and mother. Wouldn’t be doing it if they weren’t safe. You’d almost have to try to drill too deep in a root canal.
Not sure what you mean by drill down the sides, the tooth has already been reduced to place the crown.
Pulling teeth does not cause an infection. More often if there is already an abcess pulling the tooth helps it heal. I tell people it is like having a splinter in your finger that has festered. Leaving the splinter in and it is very hard for the body to heal, pull the splinter and it heals up very well. Abcessed teeth work very much the same but pulling it doesn’t cause the infection. A extraction socket can get infected but it very rarely happens.
the dentist said that I had 2 big fillings already and that one tooth was chipped… he said I needed 2 crowns. I would give anything to go back to that day and listen more and make a better decision, but that’s in the past.
so I guess it was that I had cavities and the filling was already too big so it needed crowns.
the crowns were done poorly, the gum would not grow back in between the 2 crowns and one had a ledge in the back on the underside and they were both not seeded (sp?) properly. my gums were irritated and I was a basket case over all of it. I was in pain from getting the floss always stuck and all the food that would go in between.
I had them redone by a prostodontist… the pain did not subside, although the crowns were much nicer. One eventually needed a RC so I pulled it, now this other one still hurts after a month. I am more concerned about pulling this one due to it will be a much more noticeable gap when I am eating.
Due to genetics, growing up with non-fluorinated water and British dentistry, I became an adult with seven missing molars. I do not recall having any problems chewing, although I’ve since had three implants and a couple of fixed bridges put in to fill in the gaps.
I hope you get the painful tooth issue resolved one way or another!
Sounds like it could be an irreversable pulpitis, maybe caused by trauma of the crown prep. In my mind a large filling isn’t reason enough to crown the tooth. If it is chipped also, sure, depending on the size of things. Mostly if there isn’t decay I leave old dentistry alone if it is working.
Really in my mind a root canal on a first molar is preferable to pulling it(on a second molar it is more of a toss up). As I said before, i’ve had six. Three prior to becoming a dentist and three after.
Well I went to the endodontist and was told that I do not need a root canal and he doesn’t know if I got one if it would even solve my “problem”. He suggested I use a night guard. After 2 weeks of using it on and off its helped a tiny bit… still considering pulling it and just being done with it.
I am still unclear on how eating will be with the missing 3rd 2nd and 1st molars over there. I guess it depends on the person. I think even if I have problems eating, it will be just when I am eating instead of being annoyed all day and night.
plenty of people chew well with no molars. I try to save first molars but you know your situation best and will have to make the decision. Be happy to give my two cents and help any way I can.
thank you… I dont need a root canal, nothing is wrong with the gums… i think im hypersensitive to the crown and it FEEL it, in my tooth and my gums, maybe more than most would?
Perhaps there is a low fracture? the endo said he doesnt see anything… at this point its wait more… or pull… or try a root canal… i dont like the last idea. its been since December since I have had a pain free day. and by pain i mean various degrees of intense pain to constant annoyance.
I dont want to lose the tooth but I also am very unsure about eating all the time and feeling it every moment…and just want my life back.
i just worry so much about my decision. there is no going back, but it will finally be over… or will it just be starting a new problem? it cant be as bad as dealing with this tooth every day
I went to see my handsome dentist this morning. he told me that his grandma has no teeth and only wears her top dentures and can chew everything. so more of it depends on the person.
Hmm… im going to decide soon, it will nice to be done with it!
how about having the crown removed, with or without a temporary crown placed, and see if things settle down. If it settles down you know it is the crown causing it somehow. If it doesn’t settle down then it is the tooth.
I know you said the bit has been tripple checked but in a case like this it is almost always the nerve or the bite. Since the dentist said the bite is okay instead of removing the crown and then having to replace it if it settles down you could just have it taken completely out of occlusion instead.
All 4 wisdom teeth gone and all 4 molars gone. They have gone over the past 20 plus years. No trouble eating. I assume that my teeth will continue to get worse but im not too concerned. Im in mid 40’s right now. At this rate I will probably get fakes by the time im in my 60’s. Yeah, not real worried.
We actually tried this recently. The tooth was ok about 15 minutes of it being off. i asked him to narrow the crown a little and he did hoping that would stop the poking feeling.
It is the crown as far as i am concerned, for sure. I think it may be that I am hypersensitive to it.
Last time they put on the crown, after the endo looked at it… i did not bite down hard when they cemented it… and it feels a BIT better, with the crown not being so “deep”.i had the back bite adjusted just yesterday since the new positioning left it a little high in the back.
. i am wondering if i dont bite at all if that will solve the problem?
I called today and the assistant said if i dont bite down when they cement it, then there will be a space at the margin and bacteria will get in.
