I’m 50% convinced about the moon landing being a hoax
Anyway, can the landing site (or flag) be seen from earth?
I’m 50% convinced about the moon landing being a hoax
Anyway, can the landing site (or flag) be seen from earth?
The flag is way too small to be seen by a telescope from Earth.
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Hmm, this reminds me of Schrodinger’s cat.
If you cannot see the American flag on the moon,
does this mean that the landing both did and did not happen? Both quantum states having equal existence until observation?
Why are you 50% convinced about the moon landing being a hoax? BTW, there wasn’t just one moon landing, there were six, 1969-1972.
Dunno your specific reasons but I suggest checking out Phil Plait’s site at www.badastronomy.com to see some rebuttals to the arguments that the lunar landings were faked.
Slightly off topic, here’s a couple of sites that address the supposed moon landing hoax, debunking all of the points commonly raised by those who think the landings were faked:
Bad Astronomy - Note that this site focuses on the Fox special about the moon landing hoax.
As for the flag specifically, we currently have no telescopes with a great enough angular resolution to see the flag (or lander, or rover) on the moon.
Yes, provided you are on the moon.
Anyway, the flags aren’t the only or (more importantly) the largest things the astronauts left. The descent stages of the LEMs are still there. But I doubt you could see them, either.
If your doubts are based on TV shows, Web sites, or books that say the landings were hoaxed, there are plenty of sites that debunk them.
Wikipedia also has a section on it, although I haven’t studied it.
I was going to point to Bad Astronomy, too, but I see on preview I’ve been beaten to it.
In short, the people claiming the landings were faked have a poor understanding of the science and technology involved and/or are nut jobs.
To put things in perspective, spy satellites and space telescopes orbit the Earth at an altitude of about 90 km. The moon is about 380,000 km away, or about 4000 times the distance. So seeing a 2-meter object on the moon is about as difficult as seeing something 4000 times smaller on the surface of the Earth. That’s about half a millimeter, or about 10 times the width of a human hair.
Hubble wouldn’t be able to see anything smaller than 600ft on the moon’s surface.
Well despite how many landings might have been, I meant “the” landing, apollo 11, neil armstrong, buzz eldrin, etc
I’m not too sure right now about considering it a hoax, that’s why I’m 50% convinced, I could go either way
I found this site http://www.moonmovie.com/15things.html
it has a lot of silly things that may not count as any proof, but if they were right about the good stuff then who knows
“We uncovered some mislabeled, unedited, behind-the-scenes footage from NASA that shows the crew of Apollo 11 clearly staging a shot of being half-way to the moon.”
boy, I guess they really don’t know how to store top secret video
Wikipedia says:
So you’re 50% convinced that NASA faked the Apollo 11 landing, but you think NASA really did land on the moon on missions 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17?
I don’t know enough about the other missions
I guess it’s easier to doubt the apollo 11 one because it was a big “show”
I might have gone down to 40-30% just now, but there are still a few interesting points from the hoax theorists
I also find it easy to believe the US goverment is capable of lies, secrets and conspiracies of this kind
Well, ** pixelfreak ** some of the Moon hoaxers agruments can be convincing, especially to layman without a background in engineering or the physical sciences, but they fall apart in under serious investigation. Can you please tell me which points from the Hoaxers seem to most convincing to you?
Right off the top of my head, I can debunk most of the agruments made on that page you linked to.
15 - While Nixon was a crook, if he couldn’t keep the Watergate scandal, involving only a fairly small number of people for a short period of time, secret, what makes one think he could have kept something involving thousands of people keep quiet for 30 years?
13 - While the Russians did have a lot more experience in space than us, and beat us to several milestones, that didn’t mean the US couldn’t pull ahead. Also, the Russians monitored the Moon landings/broadcast, and would have easily determined if it was a fake; if it was a fake why wouldn’t they have told everyone to discredit the US?
12 - Both Buzz and Armstrong want their privacy. Besides, how do I know that audio clip wasn’t faked??
10 - The flag had wires in it, to make it unfurl properly. Thus, when the flag was being set up it looks like it is waving.
9 - The pressure from the thrust was only 1.5 lbs per square inch, hardly enough to cause any sort of large crater. And in a vaccuum, the exhaust spreads out rapidly, further reducing the pressure at the crater.
8 - There are non-parallel shadows due to the perspective of the 3-D terrain, and the fact that there IS more than one light source on the moon; the surface itself&lander would have been reflecting light.
7 - Complete non-sense. While the radiation from the Van Allen belts could harm someone if they stayed there long enough, the Apollo astronauts passed through the belts fairly quickly, and would not have gotten a harmful(or even noticable) dose of radiation. Also, the hull of the craft would have easily stopped alpha or beta radiation, leaving only gamma to deal with.
6 - Docking the landing module with the command module in lunar orbit would be no more difficult than similar dockings of craft in near Earth orbit. Any of the math calculations involved(given the near vaccuum of space) wouldn’t need anything more than simple calculus to determine when to launch the lander so as to dock with the command module. Also, the lander certainly did have more than enough fuel to make lunar orbit. Calculating the amount of fuel needed to get the lander to lunar orbit is very easy; I have done it in one of my physics classes, and the fuel tanks on the lander were big enough. Also remember it is much lighter than the shuttle, and it doesn’t have to work against the Earth’s atmosphere or gravity, just the moon’s much light gravity.
5 - I need to get more info on this, but the gold foil on the landers would have simply reflected away most of the light hitting the lander, making cooling all that easier.
4 - I have built model rockets similar shaped to the lunar lander; if you get the balance right they can fly perfectly fine.
I swear I just posted about this.
I’d like to point out in this thread, however, that Bart Sibrel is a big fat idiot.
I’m pretty sure myself and others were more eloquent in the other thread.
Go to zero.
There are no interesting points from the hoax theorists. It’s a steaming pile of codswallop.
And we’ve discussed this repeatedly. Hours of reading pleasure. When come back, bring retraction.
From the site:
“15. “Tricky Dick” Richard Nixon was president at the time. He was the king of cover-up, secret tapes and scandal. Think about all of his potential antics that were not discovered.”
What in the hell kind of bullshit logic is that? Is this supposed to be some sort of logical argument against the moon landing, someone’s political commentary, a joke or all of the above?
The funniest fake moon landing theory actually involves OJ. He was in a movie about a fake landing on Mars. The theory goes that he was framed for killing his ex-wife as “payback” for being in that movie which somehow “proved” that a landing could have been faked. The movie was Capricorn One.
The moon landings were a hoax . Definately .
The final proof