I am going to Canada next month. When I visit the USA I stock up on bulk acetaminophen in 500s and alcohol from the pharmacy for diluting perfume oil into scent.
In the UK, acetaminophen can only be sold in 20s in bubble packs and are very expensive. Alcohol is only available when ‘denatured’- made to stink and therefore useless for my needs.
Are these two items available easily from pharmacies in Canada?
Is Acetominophen expensive enough elsewhere in the world to warrant “stocking up” while abroad? Even Tylenol here, which is the best-known name-brand, is pretty damn cheap. I can’t imagine something so common and patentless can be all that expensive…can it?
Thanks Feynn. That’s the information I needed. I will be able to stock up on acetaminophen. The alcohol will have to wait for my next visit to the States.
Bernse- I’m not sure what the problem is. I need acetaminophen for pain and buying it in small quantities is annoying and expensive. The alcohol is for making up perfume oil into scent- if you use water it doesn’t evaporate like usual scent.
You could always buy the 40% alchohol/water mixture that liquor stores here sell, if that works for your needs. It’s designed to be used for drinks, and has no unusual nasties in it.
Pjen, perfume oil should be diluted using a denatured alcohol formulated for that purpose. In the U.S., this would be Specially Denatured Alcohol 39C, which is denatured with 1% diethyl phthalate. Up to 5 gallons of SDA can be purchased without a BATF permit. Unlike pure alcohol, there is no excise tax on denatured alcohol.
There are distilled alcohols in the UK other than the common methylated spirits; check with a distiller in your area.
It can only be sold blister packed and in 12s (fewer than I thought) in the UK- as an attempt to cut down on damage from suicide attempts. This makes it expensive- about US$1.20 per pack- 10c a tablet. In bulk in the US they are a little over 1c each.
Yes, but in the UK, full excise duty is charged- about £10 ($15) a litre as tax, making it about $20 in the store. The stuff I get in the US costs about $1.50 a US pint- big difference!
I thought it wasn’t sold as acetaminophen at all, but rather as paracetamol.
I can’t imagine too many ways of committing suicide worse than acetaminophen overdose. It’s slow (as in, several days) and extremely painful. Perhaps the UK government ought better have educated its citizens on the horrors of a slow painful death rather than legislating an easily-defeatable packaging system. If someone is intent on committing suicide, I doubt that an extra ten minutes of popping blister packs is going to make them change their mind.
I was in the supermarket (Sainsbury’s) today and picked up a pack of 16 (own brand) for 29 pence. I don’t know what this works out to in dollars and cents (US), but I suggest you shop around.
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**I thought it wasn’t sold as acetaminophen at all, but rather as paracetamol.
I can’t imagine too many ways of committing suicide worse than acetaminophen overdose. It’s slow (as in, several days) and extremely painful. Perhaps the UK government ought better have educated its citizens on the horrors of a slow painful death rather than legislating an easily-defeatable packaging system. If someone is intent on committing suicide, I doubt that an extra ten minutes of popping blister packs is going to make them change their mind. **
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It is sold as paracetamol in the UK and much of the rest of the world but this is not usually recognised by North Americans which is why I used their terminology.
Of course this denies to North Americans that awful joke- "Why are there no aspirin in the Jungle? Because the Parrots eat em all!)
Before I stopped work I was an Emergency Psychiatry worker so I have some experience of suicide and parasuicide. Despite much education, tablet overdose, particularly acetaminophen/paracetamol is a frequent choice, especially by young women. No-one ever left my care without a request to find any other way than this for attempting to end it all or to express distress; I gave grahic accounts of lingering deaths by liver failure in now regretful patients. However, it seems to be culture bound and continues to be a problem. The law now only allows acetaminophen/paracetamol to be sold blister packed, and in small numbers, and you can only buy two packs at a time. This at least slows down the decision making process. Despite this I personally do not agree with the law for a number of reasons, but that is a differfent story,
QUOTE]*Originally posted by psychonaut *
**I thought it wasn’t sold as acetaminophen at all, but rather as paracetamol.
I can’t imagine too many ways of committing suicide worse than acetaminophen overdose. It’s slow (as in, several days) and extremely painful. Perhaps the UK government ought better have educated its citizens on the horrors of a slow painful death rather than legislating an easily-defeatable packaging system. If someone is intent on committing suicide, I doubt that an extra ten minutes of popping blister packs is going to make them change their mind. **
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It is sold as paracetamol in the UK and much of the rest of the world but this is not usually recognised by North Americans which is why I used their terminology.
Of course this denies to North Americans that awful joke- "Why are there no aspirin in the Jungle? Because the Parrots eat em all!)
Before I stopped work I was an Emergency Psychiatry worker so I have some experience of suicide and parasuicide. Despite much education, tablet overdose, particularly acetaminophen/paracetamol is a frequent choice, especially by young women. No-one ever left my care without a request to find any other way than this for attempting to end it all or to express distress; I gave grahic accounts of lingering deaths by liver failure in now regretful patients. However, it seems to be culture bound and continues to be a problem. The law now only allows acetaminophen/paracetamol to be sold blister packed, and in small numbers, and you can only buy two packs at a time. This at least slows down the decision making process. Despite this I personally do not agree with the law for a number of reasons, but that is a differfent story,
Yes, I had forgotten that resale price maintenance on medicines had been dropped since my last visit to the States when I last topped up. However, they’re still three times the price of USA drug store acetaminophen/paracetamol.