Canadians overstaying their visas in the US -- an invasion we must repel with massed force?

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Moving to… Well, I guess Elections.

Chill, dude. By the time winter’s over we’ll all be so high that the only thing we’ll be invading is the 7-11 for Doritos.

Not to be rude, but that only works if you limit “Canadian” to after the creation of the Dominion of Canada and ignore native concerns, Iraq, etc…

Isn’t this called being deceptive? After all, from the article in the OP

It is a number of individuals that is many times larger than the 7% per country immigration limit or the refugee limit.

The percentage may be small but the number of individuals are high. As Trump claimed that he was looking to target visa overstays it shows that there is a racial bias on his policies and that he is not worried about WASPs but only cares about brown people, even when they are trying to legally enter and follow U.S. like most asylum seekers.

Canada is peaceful, but we have a long history of supporting out allies, and we’re into U.N. peacekeeping, even when keeping the peace annoys our allies, so it cannot be said that we always fight in defense of ourselves. For example, Lester B. Pearson, who later became prime minister of Canada, won a Nobel Peace Prize for using the world’s first, large-scale United Nations peacekeeping force to de-escalate the situation [Suez Crisis]."

Why? What are the numbers on Latin American and African visa overstays? Is he cracking down on those but not Canadian?

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That’s a reach. It could just be plain incompetence. Or racism by the officers. And don’t forget that many Canadians are not white. That said, his fault or not, Trump is responsible: if the officers are racist, he is responsible for that racism.

What officers?

Right now Canadians have 6 months to stay in the country, they just don’t go back.

Why has he made no action to combat this when he blocked these “shithole” countries by cancelling programs and now is performing the largest military deployment in the world as a political stunt to block people who have publicly stated they are traveling to apply for asylum which is legal immigration.

And Canada is more than 86% white BTW.

But lets quote Trump here

Ya…it’s not about race at all is it :smack:

Canadians are white with European heritage. So no.

Lets be honest.

You are being pretty silly. Yes, most of Trump’s anti-immigration stances is playing to the racists.
But Canada has massive business, military, and security integration with the US. They share a huge border, language and culture. Not cracking down on Canadian overstays isn’t proof that it’s all racial. There’s all sorts of actual proof, like the words he says.

It isn’t proof it is additional evidence, especially that he is against legal immigration or is pandering to the white supremacist portion base that believes in white genocide.

BTW, if you are Mexican and can afford a plane ticket it is much easier to sneak in from Canada and now there is no visa requirement for Mexicans to visit Canada.

It has been that way for a long time. My grandfather came in illegally because the 1885 Alien Contract Labor Law excluded all immigrants who took a job in exchange for passage and his was paid by a mining company.

But the fact that you pointed out that a shared “language and culture” is a reason why we don’t need to care about Canada shows that the Know-Nothing Party did win in the end.

Not sure if I’m in favor of lifting the visa requirement for Mexicans, but how does that pose a threat to the US or make it “much easier to sneak in from Canada”? You still need a Canadian passport or equivalent, like a Nexus card. A Mexican trying to enter the US from Canada would be no different than one trying to enter from the Mexican side. What am I missing?

Not only that, but there have been some disturbing stories of Canadians actually holding Canadian passports being refused admittance just because they looked like they might be Muslim.

On the positive side, I’m happy to see that as far as real undesirables are concerned – those vetted and deemed inadmissible to Canada – are being deported at an increased rate.

I would use the phrase “not fear” instead of “don’t care about”, and the reason you don’t need to fear Canada is because of the tightly integrated peer-level economies that already exist. Both countries just need to retain, in accordance with their preferences, their relative priorities over economic growth and opportunity versus societal health and solidarity, which is where the main differences are.

My personal opinion is that us in the US addressing our racist and bigoted immigration policies would solve most of this issues. It is hilarious and terrifying to watch scared little nativists play security theater.

If you think a Nexus card or even crossing at a place where the US shines the facial recognition lasers in your eyes is the only way across up here in the PNW you are not very familiar with the area.

George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan got that most of illegal immigration is caused by our own laws, but the wargarble from the “white genocide” voting block stopped realistic, enforceable laws. I do fear them finding their “Kristallnacht” but as there are already “concentration camps” for legal immigrants I maybe they already have and I missed it.

But ya after 150 years of history where Germans, Irish, Italians, Finns or Catholics were going to “destroy white america” I have little tolerance for this “the sky is falling” claims.

That said Canada likes to pretend it is doing better, but if you are Canadian you should be ashamed on how you treat your first nations and Inuit populations.

Travel North and pay attention, and don’t stick to Whitehorse or Dawson and just watch. I really like Canada, but man we all have a lot of work to do.

One thing the article doesn’t mention is why are those Canadians overstaying their Visas.

Maybe I’m weird (about this I mean, not in general), but I think that someone getting apendicitis while on vacation is different from someone who miscounted (how is the “6 months” defined in the law, as 6 months or as 180 days?) and in turn this is different from someone who’s purposefully decided to stay long-term without doing the proper paperwork.

Another biggie is “wasn’t paying attention”. And out of people who /deliberately/ overstay their visa, there’s another big chunk that isn’t intending to stay – just intending to stay for a little while longer.

But that’s true about everybody, not just Canadians.

Hey, if we crack down on snowbirds, the condo markets in Florida, Arizona, and Southern California would immediately collapse. They have us by the nads, there.

ive heard that if they busted every European worker that over stayed their work visas (mostly in things like travel/transportation service industries like airports ect ) most of the docks and airports would be ghost towns ……