Cancel Culture and Virtue Signaling -- What’s the case against them?

I do have to wonder how much they give in dark money to various Super Pacs and such. And I will be kept wondering, as that info doesn’t need to be disclosed.

A great point.

As you may already know, one can find out some of this at www.opensecrets.org.

It looks like they give about equally to Democrats and Republicans, but more to the latter.

I don’t think they should. give to either.

Walgreens and Boots are one company, so I guess British progressives (is that word used there?) may join the boycott.

The more a progressive boycott of Walgreens is publicized, the more conservative Americans will shop at Walgreens

This really just further cements that anything truly objectionable that could be called “virtue signalling” could more simply be called “hypocrisy.” If you’re simply upset by the act of publicly claiming a certain virtue it surely has more to do with how you view that specific virtue rather than the act of extolling said virtue.

I think I agree, at least in part. So long as it doesn’t involve character assassination, I find it hard to object to said virtue signaling per se. And if it is character assassination of a career-ruining nature, the problem then is the cancelling, not the signal.

At its worst, cancel culture is mob rule - and ‘mob’ in the sense of ‘lynchmob’ - not especially rational, not necessarily following any actual fact or truth, not even acting in proportion with the perceived wrong - just running along with a riotous crowd to get on board with smashing and burning something.

And (IMO) anything positive that can be said about ‘virtue signalling’ is really just talking about virtue.

I used to be a member of a message board on which a prominent right-winger would rail against virtue signaling and what he called ‘identity politics,’ not realizing (despite it being pointed out to him repeatedly) that he was in favor of the identity politics he righteously denounced, only in his case the identity was that of white Christian male Americans, and the virtue they were constantly signaling was that of conservative values. It was astonishing how hard it was to get him to acknowledge that was what virtually all of his arguments were based on, and more astonishing that he would continue to rail against these things after that was pointed out to him.

Yes, “some”, but not all, and we don’t even know if it’s most or even a significant minority.

I agree, I think that money should be removed from politics altogether. Billion dollar campaigns make democracy into a bit of a farce, IMHO.

As a manner of virtue signalling, right?

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That’s right. True cancel culture would prohibit watching the games.

So it doesn’t exist then, at least not as anything of consequence in the US.

It’s like the teaching of critical race theory. It doesn’t happen in grade schools, high schools, and most colleges, but right wingers need a fictitious bad guy to rail against, and that’s why people know the term “critical race theory”.

I didn’t say that. This just isn’t an example of cancel culture, which is an authoritarian erasing.

Then where is it? Give us an example.

Speaking of rewriting our history for elementary school students, propaganda and right thought, tearing down statues and monuments, things have have lasting effects.

Classic example of antifa canceling a monument for political reasons:

https://media.gettyimages.com/videos/wide-shot-swastika-sculpture-on-roof-of-nuremberg-stadium-exploding-video-id2026-221?s=640x640

What’s the ‘lasting effect’ of tearing down a statue? That there’s now — an absence of a statue?

Statues and monuments aren’t primarily about teaching, they’re about honoring someone. If someone isn’t deserving of being honored, why have a statue of them? If we want to teach children about something, that should be done from a factually correct book, not with a statue or monument.

ETA: I doubt you will find a liberal in favor of removing Robert E. Lee or other confederates from the history books. Which is where they belong.

None of that is “authoritarian erasing”. Furthermore, conservative and Trumpists have been trying to rewrite our history for elementary schools and other students (in addition to pushing propaganda and “right thought”), but somehow only the liberal/progressive attempts to improve scholarship and more accurately teach history seem to bother you.