Cancer redux - stupid prostate!

Eight years ago I contracted prostate cancer. Had radiation threapy, five days a week for eight weeks. That seemed to take care of it, my PSAs were down it around 0.5 for years.

Just recently, it jumped up to 1.1, then 1.8 within six months, so hied myself back to the urologist for a biopsy. While waiting for that result, which takes ten days (the pathologist must stroke his beard, throw down some chicken bones and contemplate his navel), I got a full bone scan and a CT scan to be sure no cancer had danced its way out of the prostate.

Fortunately, they were clear, and yesterday went back to the urologist, who told me the damned thing had come back. Previously, the oncologist had told me I should probably have brachytherapy (implanting the radioactive seeds), but after looking it up and seeing what was involved, and the after effects, I’m pretty reluctant to try that.

The urologist told me that it is pretty small right now, but the Gleason rating is 7, so it difficult to tell right now what to do. I didn’t like the idea of “watchful waiting” (at my age, they figure I’ll probably die of something else before Old Man Cancer gets me), but as I plan to live to 102, so wasn’t too keen on that.

He reasurred me that might be the best for the time being. Will continue to moniter the PSA every three months and see what happens. He said that to have the seeds implanted might well ruin my quality of life for years, so better to wait and see how it goes. There is a good chance that it won’t grow that much for several years, in which case best to just wait and see. Should PSAs continue to rise , then he might want to do another biopsy (loads of fun), and then consider what therapy to do. He thinks hormone treatments might well be the answer with less problems than other things.

So, anyway, while it is a bummer to have it come back, at least the doc does not want to rush into a treatment, so that is some relief. There are figures out there that many cancer patients can be grateful if they live for five years after treatment and remission, so I guess eight years is not bad. If I can beat it for another eiight, I’ll be 90.

Then, get can get it treated, and another eight years I’ll be 98, and then to hell with it. :smiley:

Sorry for venting here, but I don’t like to talk about it with my wife or kids, as don’t want them to get depressed about it. I’m really not down about it. Instead of being depressed, I’m more pissed off. Stupid prostate.

Wow, that’s a lot of information and emotion to have to process! You will be in my thoughts, definitely, and I will be sending all the positive vibes your way that I can spare. Plus a prayer or two, unless you object to that.

A guy I had known since I was 11(I’m now 47) - who I’d class as a ‘mate’, if not quite a ‘friend’ - died the other day from the Big C, after discovering he had it 6 wks ago and keeping it secret from all but his closest friends.

You keep on kicking cancer’s ass, fella.

I was just diagnosed with an “enlarged prostate” the other day. Although not cancerous, I still feel your pain. I’m not even 30 yet! How can I be having prostate problems? Let me tell you, that prostate exam was not fun.

Anyway, hang in there, bud. Keep a good mental attitude, that’s one of the most important aspects of dealing with cancer.

Just had my very first prostate biopsy about a month ago (results were negative). They’re not lots of fun, for sure, but it wasn’t as bad as I had been expecting.

I looked into the brachytherapy thing, too, while I was waiting for the results. Not exactly overwhelmed with joyous optimism, but if I would’ve had to, I would’ve gone through with it.

I sure wish you the best, and may your PSAs stay low.

Prostate: the Edsel of human organs.

Ouch, Geoff. It may hearten you to know that my sainted Father (79 this year) was told that he had prostate cancer, several years ago. His doctor recommended the same thing as yours - wait and see. So far he’s not gotten any worse. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for ya. :slight_smile:

I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this. But it’s good that you were diligent about your checkups. Hopefully any treatment advised won’t be too much to deal with.

StG

Kick its ass, Geoff!!!

I will send ninja pirate prostate cancer killers your way via my awesome super power of brain wave excellence.
In all seriousness I hope everything turns out okay.

May whatever gods there be, be with you. Sending healing thoughts your way.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/26994.php

Read and then research other similar studies.

I’m very sorry for the hard news, KlondikeGeoff. It sucks. But if the doctors feel they can take a hands off strategy, that’s relatively good.

At 82, watchful waiting does seem to be the appropriate treatment. As both my internist and urologist have told me – almost all old men die with some cancer in their prostate, but they didn’t die from the cancer. So best of luck for many more years in your long life!

Thanks for the link, Philster, I have read about that study as well as several others. Way back a decade or so, my family doc and the specialists all told me the same thing: the amount of the PSA is not that important. Many men with very high score are cancer free, and vice versa.

The important thing is a sudden rise in the figures. Both times my PSA doubled withig a few months, and that is a very important indicator. Both times the biopsy was positive for cancer.

There have been other studies, followed by recommendations that it so unreliable that men ought not be bother taking the test. I think that is ridiculous, as it is a simple blood test, causing no pain, so why not. The results should be considered carefully, but it is an indicator.

Similar recommendations have come out recently suggesting women should not bother getting mammograms annually. There is no harm in doing that, so I fail to understand this kind of thinking. Had I not taken the PSA tests, I would have had pretty invasive cancer by now.

I sugested to my kids, nephews and friends to start taking the tests at least at age 50, if now before.