Capt Kirk wore green not yellow/gold!!!!

[Don_t_Panic]

@Acsenray

So far at least three descriptions have been applied—lime green, avocado, chartreuse—did I miss any? Is this proof that color perception and classification is highly subjective?

Lime green, avocado, chartreuse… whatever. Its a yellowy green, or a greeny yellow.

[Nonsuch]

Inspired by this thread, I did some Googling and came across this page, from a man whose company produces replica TOS costumes. They actually had to make a gold tunic that was not color-accurate to what William Shatner wore on set, because buyers complained it didn’t look like what they saw on TV.

[terentii]

@Nonsuch

They actually had to make a gold tunic that was not color-accurate to what William Shatner wore on set, because buyers complained it didn’t look like what they saw on TV.

Oooooooh, I want one! :o

[Acsenray]

@Nonsuch

Inspired by this thread, I did some Googling and came across this page, from a man whose company produces replica TOS costumes. They actually had to make a gold tunic that was not color-accurate to what William Shatner wore on set, because buyers complained it didn’t look like what they saw on TV.

In the pictures on that page, the two look nearly identical to me. The supposed gold version doesn’t look like the bright yellow that I’m used to.

[cochrane]

This thread reminds me of the NG episode “Relics.”

Scotty: What is it?

Data: It is green.

[terentii]

@cochrane

This thread reminds me of the NG episode “Relics.”

Scotty: What is it?

Data: It is green.

And not “By Any Other Name”? :dubious:

[cochrane]

@terentii

And not “By Any Other Name”? :dubious:

Uh, no. Have you seen “Relics”?

[jayjay]

@cochrane

Uh, no. Have you seen “Relics”?

The scene in “Relics” is actually an homage to this scene from the TOS episode “By Any Other Name”.

[cochrane]

@jayjay

The scene in “Relics” is actually an homage to this scene from the TOS episode “By Any Other Name”.

OK. The scene in “Relics” actually came to my mind first. It’s no less relevant.

[terentii]

@jayjay

The scene in “Relics” is actually an homage to this scene from the TOS episode “By Any Other Name”.

I’ve always wondered what the hell those artifacts Scotty has framed on his wall are. Some kind of Industrial-age machine or measuring tools, maybe? They’re not pointed, so I doubt they’re weapons (or even parts of weapons).

[Acsenray]

Are you sure that they’re meant to be artifacts as opposed to abstract art?

[terentii]

@Acsenray

Are you sure that they’re meant to be artifacts as opposed to abstract art?

They look very … mechanical, so I’ve always assumed they’re related to engineering somehow. Besides, Scotty was never exactly the artistic type, was he (especially when it came to abstract art)?

[Lumpy]

@terentii

I’ve always wondered what the hell those artifacts Scotty has framed on his wall are. Some kind of Industrial-age machine or measuring tools, maybe? They’re not pointed, so I doubt they’re weapons (or even parts of weapons).

At least to me one looks like some kind of sword in a sheath and the other a very stylized knife/hatchet.That would be in keeping with the armor and shield we also see.

[John_DiFool]

One thing I noticed going to an NFL game in person is the greenish tint to the goalposts that is not evident in a broadcast. FWIW.

[Jonathan_Chance]

@cochrane

OK. The scene in “Relics” actually came to my mind first. It’s no less relevant.

Data sold the joke better. Gotta admit.

[cmyk]

Maybe the designer meant “lemon green”.

[Biffster]

@Acsenray

What “people”? Did you read the quote? It’s from an interview with the actual guy who made all the costumes for Star Trek, and who is one of the most well-known costumers in Hollywood history.

And the quote says that the color deviation happened when the costume was “photographed,” which would throw all period photographs into suspicion.

Still, why does the dress tunic look green while the normal tunic looks “tawny”? Shouldn’t they both appear the same colour if this material/studio lights theory were true? They are clearly two different colours.
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[Biffster]

@Terminus_Est

Here’s a photo taken on set where Kirk’s shirt is unambiguously green:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O9BTJZDrF7c/Ut2BXYQx8sI/AAAAAAAAS_4/WMqjdmUwRqA/s1600/P97_13_amoktime.jpg

If the file name is accurate, it’s from Amok Time, so early in the second season.

And if you look at the skin tone and the set, everything is bluish. You can create the same effect on your monitor or TV by playing with the colour balance.
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[Acsenray]

@Biffster

Still, why does the dress tunic look green while the normal tunic looks “tawny”? Shouldn’t they both appear the same colour if this material/studio lights theory were true? They are clearly two different colours.

No, that’s the whole point—Different materials can reflect light in different ways, photograph in different ways, and appear on film or video in different ways, even if they are exactly the same color. That’s precisely what Theiss was saying. See the blog post —

… look at the wrap-around tunics as well as the dress uniform tunics of Kirk’s – all green. They came off as their true colors because they were constructed of different materials than the standard duty command shirts.

This same film problem can be seen in other areas of the old show as well. The miniature of the Enterprise alternately looked light gray, pale blue and sometimes faint green. The carpet on the bridge, which was actually a dark gray, often appeared tan or brown. So, for the devoted fan trying to faithfully recreate his little corner of Trekdom for an upcoming convention costume contest, what does he do? Adhere to what actually was, the intended look, the look the cast and crew all saw? Or go with what we all saw on our screens each episode? Decisions, decisions.

[Johnny_L.A]

@Jonathan_Chance

Data sold the joke better. Gotta admit.

Without Scotty, there would have been no joke.