Capt Kirk wore green not yellow/gold!!!!

[Acsenray]

@Biffster

Might it have something to do with red-yellow-blue being the primary colours in real life, but a television reproduces all the colours in the spectrum using red-green-blue diodes (RGB)?

I’m not sure that this has much to do with it.

@Biffster

It’s kind of like finding that all your life your dad had an affair that he didn’t tell anyone about and you actually have a half brother six months older than you.

I like that analogy.

[Acsenray]

@Broomstick

Specifically, it’s deuteranomalous trichromacy, which basically means that while I see green it’s not the same green color-normals see. It can, indeed, be described as color shifting.

It’s actually the most common form of “colorblindness”…

I’ve created a new thread to talk more about colorblindness — http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=802377

[Drunky_Smurf]

@Broomstick

you color normals

We prefer the term cisvisioned. Thank you.

[Starfleet_Quartermaster]

I have been researching the Original Star Trek Uniforms (costumes) since 1980.
There were two different version of them. First they were made of Velour for the 1st & 2nd seasons, which WERE “Yellow/Gold” and then in the 3rd season they changed to a Double Knit fabric and the color of those was Avocado Green.
The Wrap, which was also green was a Wool Double knit and that is why it appeared to be the green it actually was.
The “They were Only Green” information is Not correct.
I am new here and haven’t figured out how to post a picture, but I have a picture of a 1st Season Screen used Tunic I can post that shows the true color of the Velour Tunics, I also have fabric samples from the show of the 3rd Season fabric

[Acsenray]

You can’t post pictures directly to this board. You can upload to a photo sharing service and then link from here.

However given the quotes from William Ware Theiss above I would think that your proof would have to be extraordinary.

The restored versions of Star Trek shown on Netflix now clearly show green throughout.

[terentii]

@Broomstick

The one color shift I can probably most easily describe for you color normals involves “FAA green”. To me it is sky blue. This caused some confusion for me very early in flight training, and it was my FAA physical where my color perception anomaly was first diagnosed. I was required to undergo additional testing to make sure it would not be a safety issue (it wasn’t) and after that I agreed to refer to that blue color of light as “green” when engaged in aviation activities.

This is interesting. For as long as I can remember, I’ve always thought the “green” used in American stoplights was far more on the blue side. Any time I had to color them in school, I’d make them blue; Crayola “green” just never seemed right to me.

After many years of conditioning, I now recognize the color as a shade of green, but it still seems blue-green to me.

[furryman]

@Thudlow_Boink

When I was a kid, the hair on Cesar Romero’s Joker looked yellow to me (and I knew from comic books that it was supposed to be green). Now looking at photos, I can see the green, but it’s more of a light green or lime green—maybe the same color Kirk’s shirt is supposed to be??

To me in some scenes Romero’s hair actually looks red. I always figured that was due to the studio lighting.

[Acsenray]

I also see the green traffic light as more blue than green and very light greens as yellow. I am green weak, the most common form of color disability.

I also the the red light as yellowish. I often can’t tell the color differences between tail lights and braking lights in the back of a car very clearly.

[Paintcharge]

@Acsenray

I also the the red light as yellowish. I often can’t tell the color differences between tail lights and braking lights in the back of a car very clearly.

In most cars, there is no color difference between tail lights and brake lights. Brake lights are just brighter.

[Lumpy]

@terentii

This is interesting. For as long as I can remember, I’ve always thought the “green” used in American stoplights was far more on the blue side. Any time I had to color them in school, I’d make them blue; Crayola “green” just never seemed right to me.

After many years of conditioning, I now recognize the color as a shade of green, but it still seems blue-green to me.

Oh definitely. Closest I can describe it is a sort of forest/pine green; maybe teal? BTW: there’s a formal standard, in RGB hexidecimal format it’s #33a532 For some reason I find it a peculiarly attractive and comforting shade; maybe pure conditioning from not having to stop?

[Kent_Clark]

@Starfleet_Quartermaster

I have been researching the Original Star Trek Uniforms (costumes) since 1980.
There were two different version of them. First they were made of Velour for the 1st & 2nd seasons, which WERE “Yellow/Gold” and then in the 3rd season they changed to a Double Knit fabric and the color of those was Avocado Green.
The Wrap, which was also green was a Wool Double knit and that is why it appeared to be the green it actually was.
The “They were Only Green” information is Not correct.
I am new here and haven’t figured out how to post a picture, but I have a picture of a 1st Season Screen used Tunic I can post that shows the true color of the Velour Tunics, I also have fabric samples from the show of the 3rd Season fabric

But the question is, were they* supposed* to be gold? Even in the early seasons, Kirk’s dress tunic (whatever it was made from, it wasn’t velour!) isclearly some shade of green, and not some shade of yellow/gold.

I suspect that they intended the command uniforms to be gold, but due to the weaknesses of 1965-era color TV, “pure” yellow-gold would have washed out, so they started throwing green in there until they got something that passed for gold on the screen.

@Ascenray

I also the the red light as yellowish. I often can’t tell the color differences between tail lights and braking lights in the back of a car very clearly.

It’s fine, just as long as you understand **THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
**

[Biffster]

@Kent_Clark

But the question is, were they* supposed* to be gold? Even in the early seasons, Kirk’s dress tunic (whatever it was made from, it wasn’t velour!) isclearly some shade of green, and not some shade of yellow/gold.

**THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

**

I see what you did there.
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[Johanna]

@terentii

This is interesting. For as long as I can remember, I’ve always thought the “green” used in American stoplights was far more on the blue side. Any time I had to color them in school, I’d make them blue; Crayola “green” just never seemed right to me.

After many years of conditioning, I now recognize the color as a shade of green, but it still seems blue-green to me.

@Acsenray

I also see the green traffic light as more blue than green and very light greens as yellow. I am green weak, the most common form of color disability.

You may take comfort in the Japanese language using aoi (from 青 ao generally translated as ‘blue’) for the traffic signals. The word midori, apparently, refers to the color of green melons. Many languages in fact have quite different ways to set the boundary between blue and green.

@furryman

To me in some scenes Romero’s hair actually looks red. I always figured that was due to the studio lighting.

I thought I remembered it as light pink (or was it green? something was green there), but I could be wrong. I only got to see a color TV on visits to my grandparents’ house while the original run of Batman was on, and that was on Sundays, when rerun views of Batman were infrequent. The only thing I really remember about Romero as Joker was that mustache slathered over in clown white. A uniquely awe[del]some[/del]ful look. IMHO every portrayal of the Joker since then has had the motivation to be the anti-Romero.

[Lumpy]

@Johanna

The only thing I really remember about Romero as Joker was that mustache slathered over in clown white. A uniquely awe[del]some[/del]ful look. IMHO every portrayal of the Joker since then has had the motivation to be the anti-Romero.

I love Romero’s justification of this: “hey, the guy’s supposed to crazy, right?”

[pulykamell]

@terentii

This is interesting. For as long as I can remember, I’ve always thought the “green” used in American stoplights was far more on the blue side. Any time I had to color them in school, I’d make them blue; Crayola “green” just never seemed right to me.

After many years of conditioning, I now recognize the color as a shade of green, but it still seems blue-green to me.

Oh, definitely. The green light in many/most stop lights is really more like between blue and green. And the yellow is between yellow and orange (amber.) And the red is perhaps between red and orange (though that one I don’t notice as much.)

But there is some variation in stoplights depending on the type they are.

[Miller]

@Biffster

Might it have something to do with red-yellow-blue being the primary colours in real life, but a television reproduces all the colours in the spectrum using red-green-blue diodes (RGB)?

Old nitpick, but…

There are two sets of primary colors - additive, and subtractive. Subtractive primary colors are red/yellow/blue - or cyan, magenta, and yellow in printing - and describes the behavior of pigments. The more subtractive pigments you add, the closer you get to black. Additive primary colors are red, green, and blue, and describes the behavior of light. The more additive colors you mix together, the closer you get to white. Neither of these are the “real” primary colors.