My dad sure does.
Woooooot!!!
Who needs momentum when you can just doctor the baseball and get away with it?
“Clump of dirt” my ass.
Man is that stupid. They scrubbed his hands and he gave up one hit in 7 more innings. You are grasping at straws and crying like a baby. Stop,it is not becoming for an adult.
Wow, thanks for that expert analysis of my mood and posting style.
If he WASN’T doctoring the ball, explain the following:
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Pudge kept throwing balls out of play before the umpire could see them (one of which ended up in the Cardinal dugout and was an object of serious interest) long after he “scrubbed his hands.”
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Why was Rogers going to his cap before every pitch? I’ve heard of rituals on the mound, but that was almost OCD for someone who isn’t loading his hand up.
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Cardinal hitters were complaining about the ball having some odd movement after the first.
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Why would Rogers not take his glove off when shaking hands with his teammates in the dugout?
And here’s another question: why the hell was he wearing a Cool Base jersey on a night when it was 45 degrees with a windchill near freezing? I’d want the thickest uniform top I could find.
All pitchers go to their hats . Cards bitching is the love song of the loser.
I saw an interview with the umps. They said “we know the difference between doctored and undoctored. We checked and his hand was dirty. he washed it and continued. No substances”
Maybe you should pick uniforms for them. They dont know when they are comfortable.
So I guess his hand was just dirty in his ALDS and ALCS starts too, right? Because ESPN had video footage of the same “clump of dirt” in the same spot.
So say he was doctoring the ball. Big deal. That kind of cheating’s always acceptable in baseball if you can get away with it.
We have another thread about this, but honestly, this is one of the worst lists of objections I’ve ever seen.
First of all, I watched the game and didn’t notice Rodriguez throwing many balls out of play. Marquez inspected many pitched balls and he didn’t seem to have any problems after talking to Rogers in the first.
Secondly, if the ball that went into the Cardinal dugout was an “object of serious interest,” why didn’t they bring it to Marquez? If it was doctored they would have been running out there with the ball screaming bloody murder. Since they didn’t, it wasn’t.
Sorry, but I see pitchers do this all the time. It’s not the slightest bit unusual.
Is that so? Funny how none of the dozen or so articles I’ve read mentioned a single Cardinal hitter saying that. Even the St. Louis Post-Dispatch quotes no Cardinals claiming the pitches had funny movement.
So is the stuff on his hand, or his cap? Or his glove?
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And here’s another question: why the hell was he wearing a Cool Base jersey on a night when it was 45 degrees with a windchill near freezing? I’d want How would a different, cooler shirt help you doctor a ball?
Anyone ever read Keith Hernandez’s book in which he tells of Met coaches collecting buckets of balls during a Mike Scott start? All of them had the same three parallel scratches. No one could figure out how he was doing it.
I wasn’t saying the Cool Base jersey was helping him doctor the ball, I was just amazed that someone would be wearing one in Detroit in October, RickJay.
Why did La Russa think about sending Oquendo out before calling him back? Who knows. Why didn’t they take the ball to the ump? Who knows.
Hal McRae, the Cardinal hitting coach, says he had 5 or 6 balls that Rogers scuffed. The claim that Cardinal hitters were complaining comes from Leyland’s postgame news conference, and since he was in the opposing dugout he must have found out from the umpire.
Pudge threw balls out without showing them to the plate umpire, and I still want to know why he jumped on that foul tip Spiezio hit in the 6th.
Rogers had pine tar on his hat for sure. There’s a photo from foxsports.com that clearly shows it on the hat behind his ear. Something strange was happening with his glove, too, but no one’s really pressed that issue.
All academic now; St. Louis has won the World Series.
Factoids:
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It is St. Louis’s tenth World Series win, most of any franchise except the Yankees.
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Their 83-78 regular season record is the worst in history for a World Series winner.
Well, it looks like I was wrong.
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The 2006 Cardinals are also the first team to win a World Series the same year they opened a new ballpark since…
the 1923 Yankees, who moved into the House that Ruth Built.
I’m sorry. It’s just too much fun, going back through these threads and reading comments like this one.
WOOOOO!
Well, as a Tigers’ fan, I can honestly say with a great degree of optimism, “There’s always next year.”
Congrats to the Cards.
Happy
And David Eckstein gets the Wheaties box as World Series MVP.
“Look, kids, if you eat your Wheaties, you can be short and scrawny just like David Eckstein!”
Congrats to the Cardinals and all their fans.
Happy and What Exit?, y’all have class.
Eckstein already has a cereal. Yesterday at the grocery store I picked up a box of (I am not making this up) “EckO’s.”
Given the across-the-board success of the Cardinals’ pitching, I’m wondering if the Most Valuable Person might have really been Dave Duncan.