True, but there also many who didn’t vote for Trump… but also didn’t vote against him because to do so would have needed to get of their asses and go to the polling place.
On the other hand I thing this is key, it’s not “the U.S. against Canada/the rest of the world”, is fascists in the U.S. against the rest of the (non-fascist) world.
Blaming all Americans for the results of the acts of a plurality of them is not right.
I want to say this, as an American living in Montreal: Thank you. That list is excessive by any reasonable standard. Thank you.
Canadians are REALLY angry about this. It’s bad. It also isn’t your fault, and we actually do know that.
Thanks for your kind words.
This is what ALBANIA is doing to protest ONE SINGLE ACTION of grifting and imperialism by the Trump clan.
Massive protests.
Not one day of “protests” every couple of months.
Albania’s growing ‘flamingo revolution’ targets Jared Kushner resort – POLITICO
For those unaware, The National Post newspaper is to Canada what FOX News is to US.
I think this is what is really making Canadians mad. We expect Trump to be a piece of shit. But what’s up with so many Americans buying into this brainwashing bullshit that’s so completely at odds with the history of Canada and the US over the last century? The movie Canadian Bacon was supposed to be a satire, not a roadmap.
that’s not fair. The National Pest is actually sort of news.
Yes, this is very much true.
What can you do? How about talking to your fellow Americans and telling them that hating on Canada is a bunch of bullshit designed to stop you talking about Iran, gas prices, grocery prices and the Epstein files. How about shouting this from the rooftops, instead of going “meh whatever , I’m just one person.”
From my interaction with people on this topic so far, a key problem you’re going to wander into is that people don’t even understand the basic definitions. People not knowing that a tariff is a tax a government charges its own citizens is the obvious example, but people also literally don’t seem to know what “Trade” is in the sense of international trade. They certaily aren’t going to therefore know what a trade surplus or deficit is. They usually also do not know that trade deficits and government budgets deficits aren’t the same thing, and anything more com;licated than that is sure out. You cannot explain why the US current account guarantees an overall trade deficit to someone who can’t grasp what trade is.
The Venn diagram of people who support Trump and who do not understand these basic definitions is a circle. It is literally 100 percent likely that an American who loves Trump’s trade war, or even the rare Canadians that do, doesn’t know what some or all of those words mean. 100 percent.
If you are dealing with someone who literally does not understand that “trade” between the USA and Canada is the cumulative total of all buying and selling done across the border by businesses and individuals, how can you convince them tariffs are a bad idea? They don’t even know what’s being tariffed. You are not going to start from there and get them to why free trade is a good idea in any less than months of instruction.
Moderating:
In the three prior mod notes, and again in my thread ban to Uzi I have repeatedly asked posters to stay on topic. The OP is pretty narrow and focused, and we ALL need to respect that.
The above is a basically a brand new topic on how the USA population should fix their government and fellow voters. It’s a fine discussion, but off topic for this thread.
It’s also heading towards attacking you fellow (American) posters, which I was glad to see resolved upthread before it went out of control.
So drop the hijack. Spin off a new thread whether in P&E or in the Pit depending on how much you want to rant.
Seriously, our patience is getting thin - we get that it’s a sensitive subject, and that the whipsaw of changes has a lot of people rightfully angry. But that’s an excuse, not a valid reason to hijack the thread.
That wasn’t the point I was making though. I was making the point that Trump wanted tariffs to offset tax cuts he wanted to make in America.
I agree both countries have been financially imprudent.
Well today Trump went off the absolute deep end, raving about how the Federal Reserve should lower interest rates or he’ll just begin cutting countries off entirely.
Anyone who thinks a deal can be made with the Trump Administration is a fool. Beyond a fool. This has been obvious all along.
That would include Canada, against which the Orange One has a particular hostility. I think the hostility against Canada closely aligns with the hostility against the media – facts and logic are the enemy. Apparently the dementia is getting deeper. One can only hope that something changes before the whole world is flung into an economic depression.
Well… yes, the entire thread is primarily about Canada, of course.
Trump’s claims are literally the most insane and irrational things a President of the United States has ever said.
It basically comes down to “Lower interest rates for my benefit, or I will destroy our entire economy.”
He’s now threatening the United States.
And there’s a story on the CBC todat about interviewing people in Michigan who believe he was sent by God to help Americans, and how he’s the best president ever, and the first to care about Americans.
If it’s the history of banking that holds some important answers, Canadian banks also benefited from mergers and take-overs, often due to failures, in the 1920s. That meant they were more concentrated and centralized (one might even think of “oligopoly” here) than US banks and better weathered the Great Depression. A very different experience and culture guides some of the banking policies and possibilities even today.
Good call. Thanks for the link.