Facts are facts. Small facts, big facts, there all facts. You may chose to ignore the fact that the LSM repeatedly got this fact wrong. Your choice.
If the media can’t/won’t get the small, easily verified, items correct, how can you be certain that they’ve reported the more important issues correctly? You could demand that the LSM properly verify their stories, or you can demand that people stop questioning the piss poor vetting being done by media outlets.
So on one bit of geography trivia she has it over some of her detractors. Fine. And I know when driving from Detroit to Windsor Ontario you go south. Guess that qualifies me to be ambassador to Canada. But the larger point is that this particular fact in no way gives her foreign policy experience. Maybe we should never let someone from Nebraska serve as Secretary of State because you can’t see any foreign soil from there. Maybe we should let someone who lives next to an airport head the FAA. Hey, we can all see the moon, maybe we should all be astronauts.
I think I will make these demands you are suggesting. Then everything will be okay.
Or, perhaps if I just start using a infantile term like “LSM” the media will be shamed into better fact checking.
Two foreign borders? Canada is a given. But the Bering Strait, not so much.
You can make a case for the Rio Grande being the border between Texas and Mexico, but if a bit of open seawater gets to count California should get to call the Pacific Ocean the border between it and Japan. :dubious:
The statement does not correctly convey foreign policy experience or expertise, as Palin suggested it did. She’s stupid for thinking so.
Based on the comedy routines of Tina Fey? The LSM’s lack of knowledge concerning the American Revolution? Yawn. Someone lies, another swears to it, and the useful idiots believe fantasy over fact. It must be true, they read it on the internet. :smack:
In one of Tina Fey’s bits she just read an actual Palin transcript. It was one of the funniest.
Why would you? You seem perfectly content with advocating for more unverified news stories.
Which doesn’t change the fact that the LSM reports unverified stories.
Since you’re such a stickler for accuracy, can you give a cite of a mainstream media source reporting that you cannot see Russia from Alaska?
Hint: “Many people” is not a cite, nor is a skit on a comedy show. For example, Obama does not really turn into the Hulk and throw Boeher through the oval office window.
Exactly. It was meaningless, and she also showed she knew nothing about Foreign policy.
Yes. The answer to the trivia question “which state borders two foreign nations” is Alaska. The Russia / US maritime border is a thing.
California and Japan are separated by international waters and unless I’m forgetting a boundary dispute and subsequent boundary agreement between them, their relationship is irrelevant.
How would you characterize the corporate media’s propaganda for the Iraq war, or demonizing of Iran, or other bogey men to frighten viewers? Is it an actual conspiracy, or is too obvious to be a CT since CTs imply secrecy?
And what was that law or quip, about how if you’re familiar with a story in the papers you’re amazed at how wrong they are, but you don’t carry this amazement to other stories and assume they know what they’re talking about.
You know why Fey’s modification of Palin’s statement was funny and resonated? Because it directly stated Palin’s implication. Do you think Palin mentioned the borders to give a geography lesson? If not, why do you think she brought it up?
BTW, in the 24/7 competitive news cycle everyone in the press, left and right, has reported unverified stories. Deal with it. Jon Stewart criticized CNN for this very thing over and over again.
Both of you forgot Hawaii.
define “verified.”
It’s funny that in that long post you end up quoting the “LSM” to prove that “the LSM was wrong.” In any case, the point being made at that time was that Palin’s attempt to imply actual foreign policy knowledge based on the geographic separation of some obscure American and Russian islands was laughably absurd.
And if many people thought Palin said “I can see Russia from my house”, it’s not the media’s fault that so many people watch entertainment shows and never watch the news.
I would characterize it exactly in the words of Noam Chomsky that I quoted in #128 – that the media tend to adopt the basic framework of state and private power.
I’ve often expressed that sentiment myself, and having been close to some news stories myself, I know it’s true. But it’s not a matter of “how wrong they are”, it’s more a matter of “how many of the factual details they tend to get wrong”, and this is especially true on technical matters of science and technology because the journalists often don’t understand them well enough. And on other matters like current events, they’ll get details wrong because in the rush of compiling stories about complex events against the pressure of deadlines it’s inevitable that that will happen. They tend to be a lot more accurate when taking a long-term analytical view of past events.
That doesn’t mean the media is “lame” or consistently unreliable, and it certainly doesn’t make them “liberal”. If the media is perceived to have a liberal bias it’s largely because, as I said earlier, facts seem to have a liberal bias: the media will be perceived as “liberal” by the evangalical fundie because they talk about evolution as if it’s real, and the media will be perceived as “liberal” by the conservative extremist who shoots out his TV screen because the danged lib’ruls won’t stop talking about climate change.
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Actually, there is a rather tall hill (like the things they call “mountains” on the east coast) near the town of Wales which, according to the math I learned in the Pike’s Peak thread, should potentially afford a view of the tip of the Chukchi peninsula (mainland Siberia) from the tip of the Seward peninsula (mainland Alaska). On a clear day. Bring binoculars, just to be safe.
“If your mother tells you she loves you, check it out with two independent sources.”
Are you able to verify your account/allegation/report/theory?
These numbers are surprisingly high and they’ll have to be verified.
[+ (that)] Under interrogation, she verified (that) the tapes were authentic.*
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› used to add the meaning “not”, “lacking”, or “the opposite of” before adjectives, adverbs, verbs, and nouns:
unrealistic
unhappily
unscrew
unfairness*