My first job, as a concessionist, had a WalMart like policy regarding drawers, we never counted our own, or even knew how much they were supposed to have in them.
My floor manager HATED me. My drawer was frequently off by as much as $10.
Since then, I’ve worked at three or four other jobs as a cashier. I’ve never had my drawer off more than a few cents anywhere else.
I would have preferred a blind count.
~J
When I worked at Kmart, we never counted our drawers-we just had to organize everything (put all the bills together in order of denomination, put all the coupons together, checks, credit slips-you get the idea.)
What got me is that they never had a good place for us to do this-so often we’d be organzing our tills at the closed register. Which was a pain in the ass because customers would still come up and ask for our help, and distract us-hello, I’m trying to count money here. (Mainly it made me nervous because I could miss a bill or someone could swipe one).
sigh
It’s UK subsiduary, ASDA is a different story…
Yeah, the policy discussed in the OP sounds pretty shitty, and I totally agree that the cashier has an interest in insuring the count is correct before the till is out of his/her hands. Also, I wonder if it’s illegal in your state to make employees pay any underage out of their own pocket? I think it is in some places.
Also, I can’t pass up this opportunity to hand Dtc his ass for using your OP as a platform for his Ang-ka communistic brain-dead bullshit. DtC, there are two sides to every story, my knee-jerk liberal dumbass friend. Here we go:
Point the first: As was said by a greater person than I, capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all of the other ones. People obviously shop at Walmart, even if reluctantly, because walmart is still making money. So it’s doing a good job: giving the customers what they want.
Point the second: Your whole post was pretty much just a rant against capitalism, and you used walmart as your whipping boy. Why do you need to hijact this thread just to spread your own point of view?
Final point: Is it really the job of a business to deliver “soul” along with low-priced goods? I don’t think so. Go buy you some milk at walmart then read some Kerouac or paint something or gaze into your children’s eyes if you want some soul. I don’t think it’s walmart’s job to deliver it nor a bad thing if they don’t.
Let’s let the walmart workers decide how bad it is to work there, because they are in the best position to decide this matter. Guess what, it is not the case that walmart stores are closing left and right for lack of employees. I guess working there isn’t so bad after all since so many rational maximizers have decided to exchange their labor for cash at their local walmart. It doesn’t matter if you think walmart’s labor practices are dehumanizing becasue the actual humans that continue to work there obviously disagree with you.
Can’t argue with you there, pally.
Otherwise known as paying people a little amount of money a day when these people’s alternative is zero dollars a day. Also, the same argument from my comment on US labor above applies here, too.
So walmart chooses to not sell some products. So what? What’s the harm (to people besides walmart)? Do you really think that walmart’s “censorship” has a chilling effect on expression? I seriously doubt it.
This shows so much more about you than it does about walmart. You are a sick and twisted individual if you even half believe this (and I know you said it in jest, really). The Death Star blew up a whole freakin’ planet for chrissakes!
Why don’t you get a LiveJournal if you want to spew your point of view all over the place instead of hijacking threads for no reason but wanking on this tired old riff? (And I apologize for continuing this hijack, but there was ignorance to be fought).
You have my sympathy
I used to work at a cab company where we had to pay $80 a shift to use the cabs…there was a slot in the door to put our pouch with the money and we didn’t get to see the money counted at all
There was a certain counter who golly jeepers often counted the money so the driver was $10-20 short…the drivers KNEW it was this person(it never happened when that person wasn’t working) and our complaints to the owner went unheeded
So…we counted the money in front of the dispatcher and had that person put the COUNTED money into that slot
Within two days we got a memo telling the drivers we were NOT allowed to have the dispatcher do this for us…seems if the count was off and the drivers had PROOF the count was correct the owner was out the money instead of the driver
To be fair she had a talk with that particular counter and we rarely had shortages after that…of course it MIGHT of been because the drivers were so pissed at the situation that there was talk of a mass resigning if the problem wasn’t fixed
I have never spent a dime at Wal-Mart, and I never, ever will.
The most I’ve ever given them was a bladder full of piss one day when I had no other choice on an otherwise deserted freeway. Seems sort of poetically appropriate, n’est pas?
Cervaise, uh, you DID use the WM bathroom, didn’t you?
Not just the outside wall? G
Seriously, from the other side of the WMiverse, there is a certain element of social trash who see fit to vent their dislike of the store or maybe society in general by not quite making it to the toilet.
RE Thea’s situation, Open Door policy, Sis! Call to DM or Loss Prevention Mngr. SM’s can create policy out of thin air & claim it came from on high until DM on up are informed of those littlel surprises.
It was Churchill and he said it about democracy not capitalism.
Walmart destroys local economies.
Walmart fucks its employees up the ass.
Walmart sells products made by slave labor.
Walmart’s puritanical censorship practices force artists to censor their own expression, thus Walmart is very much like the Taliban.
At Disneyland (who, I may tell you is impressively dedicated to protecting its money, and is probably second only to Vegas in doing so), we did blind counts. But we didn’t just COUNT the money… we wrote down how many of each bill or coin there was, the totals for those categories, the number of checks, traveler’s cheques, and credit card slips, the totals for each of those, then the grand total for the drawer. Then it got sealed in a bag with the top copy of the list and our receipts (which were shown to us AFTER we finished our count, and if we were off, the manager would recount it in front of us). Major checks and balances there, good stuff. Of course, you’d be careful too, if one person’s drawer could come to $8000 at times (yes, that was LONG day :rolleyes: )
But I think it’s the best system.
Could we save the dumping on Wall-Mart for another thread?
My guess is that the Loss Prevention folks at your store are setting up either a CSM or someone in the cash office for an arrest. Yes, it sucks, and management has clearly not done the right thing there.
Then you bring on your peeves about the “rollback” and clearance stuff…
I seem to be the only happy Wal-Mart dude here. Yes, I’m the guy who helps you connect a dvd player to your TV, the one that tells you that a zip disk won’t fit in your floppy drive, and the guy that reminds you to check your batteries before you return that remote. I would have gone insane a long time ago, if it were not for the good things about my job.
Thea Logica, you sound upset about a few more things besides counting your till.
Oh, and I’m on (paid) vacation right now. I’ll be up in Austin in a few weeks, in a damn cheap hotel room, one block from the capital, thanks to my job.
If you think it’s a McJob, it will be. If you work at it, things suddenly fall into place.
For instance, right now, I need another beer.
And here it is!
“Glog.”
You owe my wife an apology. I just woke her up because I was laughing at your post.
:smack:
Cites?
Oh, that’s just bullshit. Artisits aren’t forced to work for Wal-mart.
Walmart’s nefarious practices with regards to underselling local competition is well known. Walmart moves into a town and operates at an initial loss, underpricing its merchandise in order to put smaller local stores out of business.
Walmart sells products mad in China by slave labor. Look at ome of the stuff next time you’re in Walmart, especially the really cheap stuff. If it says “made in China” it was made by slaves, and probably by child slaves.
Walmart is a union busting operation which has closed down stores in order to stop unionization. They have defrauded employees on workman’s comp. and destroyed evidence to cover it up. They screw their employees on health benefits and treat them like criminals.
I once had a roommate who worked security for a Walmart. She was told by managment to follow black people and Mexicans because “they are the ones who steal.” She was actually told to ignore minor thefts by white people because “they spend more money” and just to focus on minorities.
I don’t know if this was just one racist, asshole manager or if this was Walmart policy but it was what she was told. She quit after just a few months because of this policy.
So, in other words, you’re going to just repeat your drivel instead of responding to my responses to your points. Like I said, get a fucking Livejournal if you just want to spread your drivel, you fuck.
DtC: Slaves in China. Please provide proof of slavery there.
I asked you for a citation, not for a repetition of your earlier assertion.
Give sites Diogenes.
Oh, just for entertainment value, when (if) you do provide proof of Wal-mart underselling local competition, would you be so kind as to show whether they’re selling the stuff cheaper than it costs them to get it or just cheaper than the local competition had been selling it?
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There’s an interesting discussion here on this very topic. [/hijack]
To the OP:
When I worked at Target, we never counted our tills and never heard the results until review time, when we were graded on whether or not we had a pattern of shorts and overages. In fact, tills were rarely changed when one cashier took over from another - we just signed off with our cashier code and the new person signed in.
Given that there were cameras everywhere and the whole area was very open and easy to observe, I never did understand how anyone could even think that stealing from the till would be successful.
Actually, whether one agrees with Diogenes’s opinion or not (and everything i’ve read abut Wal-Mart suggests that he makes some very good points), your argument in this paragraph is logically inconsistent.
Firstly, while the idea of people as “rational maximizers” has an important place in economic theory, too many people who use this term fail to appreciate the non-economic motives that are so important in many people’s decisions.
Secondly, and much more importantly for this discussion, if people really are the rational maximizers that you claim, then there is no contradiction at all in the fact that a dehumanizing workplace can still find workers. After all, if Wal-Mart drives out local competition, as it often does, and these people have very limited (or no) choice over where they can find a job, rational maximization dictates that they will take a dehumanizing job over no job at all.
Simply put, the fact that people actually work at Wal-Mart does not mean that those same people particularly like the workplace, and the well-documented attempts of Wal-Mart worker to unionize, in the face of opposition and intimidation by the company, suggests that at least some of the workers are less than thrilled with their working conditions.
I’m not saying that all Wal-Mart workers are unhappy, but to argue that people would not choose to work in a bad workplace is to deny your own theory of people as rational maximizers, because a rational maximizer will work in a poor environment rather than starve.
When I worked at McDonald’s, if your register was exactly right (to the penny) you got a free meal coupon 
<brag>I got lots of free meal coupons</brag>*
I hated working at McDonald’s, but I have to say that as employers go, they were actually pretty good. For example, they knew I was a vegetarian, so they never had me work the grill. They didn’t even train me on it.
*I’d get special sandwiches with no meat in them. I’d just tell the guys to pile on the veggies and cheese. Big Macs with tomatoes instead of meat are yummilicious!