Ah, yes, the Open Your Mouth and We’ll Show You The Door Policy. Wal-Mart in notorious for terminating employees who complain about unfair policies. Surf the 'net a bit, you’ll see what I mean. The SM is not claiming the edct came from the DM. I suppose I could try to appeal to a higher power, but I need this job too much, and making waves in Wally World is dangerous.
Remember, we’re talking about Wal-Mart here, not an honest company that is interested in treating its employees fairly.
c) Have been in China and actually seen these so called child slaves working and getting no money for it
then all that you said was just ignorant spiel.
Made in China? Big fucking deal. If you stepped into virtually any store, you would see at least one product that it was made in China. China is not as “third world” as you think it is, so either get a cite to back up your arguement or shut the fuck up.
Right, I understand what you’re saying. I’m not arguing that working conditions must be 100% excellent simply because people work there. My position is that an outsider’s opinion on whether walmart’s working conditions are “dehumanizing” don’t really matter; the fact is that walmart isn’t doing anything illegal, and the people that work there don’t think it’s so bad that they won’t work there.
Also, on your use of the term “rational maximizer”: I think the term is broad enough to encompass what you call “non-economic motives.” Gotta run, so I have to leave this a little ambiguous for now.
Hey, my thread, my gripes. Also, this is the BBQ Pit. My gripe is about a dishonest employer treating its employees unfairly, and I was citing examples of dishonesty that extended beynod their treatmen of the employees.
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I seem to be the only happy Wal-Mart dude here. Yes, I’m the guy who helps you connect a dvd player to your TV, the one that tells you that a zip disk won’t fit in your floppy drive, and the guy that reminds you to check your batteries before you return that remote. I would have gone insane a long time ago, if it were not for the good things about my job.**
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You are sick. You need help. Wal-Mart is evil. Or, maybe you’re an evil troll or some sort of demonic being who gets off on that sort of thing…
Well, yeah, there’s the fact that I have chronic back pain and they refuse to transfer me to another department, claiming “there are no openings” when all the departments are short-staffed and screaming for more help, especially on my shift. (A doctors note might help, but most of the doctors in this town seem to be unaware that soft-tissue damage won’t show up on an x-ray, in spite of the fact that I’ve told them I’ve had x-rays before and nothing showed up, but I’m still in pain, so instead of sending me for testing that will show if there’s any soft tissue damage, they send me for another round of x-rays…)And the fact that the pay is so great that we have full-time employees who qualify for food stamps.
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Beer? You have beer? Gimme one, dammit. No wonder you’re so freaking happy, you having beer and not sharing it with your coworkers person, you. ***GIMME A FREAKING BEER!!!
And, moving beyond issues of general worker dissatisfaction and defiance of court orders to produce documents, Wal-Mart has also been found guilty of violating the law in some lawsuits. For example, the South Florida Business Journal article quoted above also points out:
This CBS article discusses a recent suit in which:
The story is taken up by this Chicago Legal Network article takes up the story and discusses the main plaintiff in the case:
Over 50% of Walmart merchandise is made in China. China’s slave labor factories are well documented but it’s almost impossible to tell what imports are made by slaves and what aren’t. There is no question that at least some of Walmart’s (and K-Mart’s) merchandise is made by slaves but those companies will not disclose information about their factories in China.
American companies profit from Chinese sweatshops. Is that really news to you people? Have you heard about Nike? How about diamonds?
Come on, Monty, are you really going to quibble over sweatshops vs. slaves?
As a matter of fact China uses both and they’re quite secretive about which factories do which.
Would it make a difference to you personally to know whether a rake was made by slaves or by virtual slaves. What if you knew the rake was made a thirteen year old girl making 20 cents a day (and working 18 hours?) Is there any significant moral difference between that and true (unpaid) slave labor?
Lay off of DtC. It is humanly impossible to insult Wal-Mart more than they deserve. I think he’s letting them off rather easy. Only in a nation full of chuckleheads like this one could a cult-like, festering chasm of evil like WallyMart thrive.
By that, I see it pretty much like the Pit here. You can rant and rave all you want without having any cites or proof that this stuff is true. All you need is where your personal experience and/or biased opinions.
Just because it’s on a website does not make it fact.
As with a lot of other companies. Do some “field research” yourself. Head out to the mall and look in several stores. Over 50% of their merchandise is made in China. So what?
So what are you saying exactly? Boycott “Made in China” products? No sarcasm here (seriously). What are you trying to say?
No, not news. I remember having a debate about this in grade 7 and that was quite a few years ago. But did you know that not all sweatshops are located in China? There are sweatshops in India, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, and many other places outside of Asia. I hope it doesn’t come as a surprise to you, but there ARE sweatshops in the States. There are sweatshops in Mexico. There are sweatshops in Cuba. There are sweatshops all over the world. What I’m trying to say is there are sweatshops all over the world. Just because it comes from China does not automatically mean it’s sweatshop made, and to single China out just because they produce more products than any other country is just plain ignorance.