Cast your vote: The Worst Person in the World

And this is relevant to the question of “Worst Person in the World” how?

If that’s the standard, then Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan, and Carter, who have each held similar power, are ALL worse than Omar al Bashir.

But if ever someone objects to the claim that we have a population of posters here at the SDMB that are so unhinged about Bush they would argue he was the worst person in the world, I have only to point to this thread.

I knew I’d end up winning this category somehow. (Thanks, Mom.) I’m sorry I kept Gore from winning New York, BrainGlutton.

He already IS the greatest threat to world peace, therefore I can safely conclude that makes him the worst person in the world w/out moving any goal-posts. Besides, unless I need new reading glasses, I’m missing the “Moderator” tag under your user name.

As for the number of people killed by the Bush regime in his almost seven years of Governance, it has become (quite conveniently I might add) a matter of guesswork – sometimes sophisticated, others not so much. But on a per-year basis, I feel it safe to say, he ‘wins’ said category in the current century hands-down. Certainly in the hundreds of thousands. Many more if you pay any heed to The Lancet and the follow-up study.

Oh, and please, do let us in on ¨how much suffering¨Bush has ¨alliviated,¨ 'cause I’m coming up blank ATM.

His actions in the aftermath of Katrina? :confused:

Just to set the record straight, I did not in fact vote for the Socialist Party candidate (Walt Brown). It was (I thought rather obvious) sarcasm. I voted for Gore.

Well, he’s alleviated the suffering the wealthiest Americans experienced associated with having to share as much of the country’s wealth with the less deserving rabble. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sorry, I thought Brown was the Libertarian candidate–wasn’t there a Brown in that position awhile back? In any case, my bad.

Redfury, while you may indeed have misplaced your glasses, what they made you miss was the lack of anything remotely moderatorial about my post. Don’t be so silly, man! You’re now conflating “worst threat to world peace” with “worst person in the world,” which is an absurd conflation. That means that if Superman existed, he’d be the worst person in the world.

I think the criteria I set up before–based on actual events, not on potential events (y’know, the same standard that Bush SHOULD HAVE applied to Iraq)–is far more reasonable.

Daniel

Another point: America has always attempted to be the bastion of freedom and liberty. Whenever anyone speaks of the best of America, those are the points that come up first. W has taken what may be the best example of human government and taken a squat on its face. Destroyed our credibility, destroyed our liberty (Patriot Act, Gitmo, concentration camps for “terrorists”), and caused more damage to America than most realize. His damage to science alone has come to mean that while Americans are bickering, CUBA has surpassed the US in genetic sciences (just start by googling Cuba and stem cells), Russia has a better space program, and we have the greatest illiteracy rate of any developed country.
We are utterly in debt to Communist China. We are so far in the hole for a war started and continued on lies, our grandchildren will still be paying it off - and which, don’t forget, has had the opposite effect as claimed, creating more terrorists than it removes.
We have a whore government for hire in what is allegedly the greatest nation in the world. We should have gotten away from oil and instead we are more dependent than ever; and the oil companies are already putting more burden on the average citizen by promoting the lie about corn ethanol, and driving the cost of meat and dairy products through the roof by inflating the market value of corn.
We already have starving people in the US. STARVING PEOPLE IN THE US. Shouldn’t that be a non sequitur? And the corporate types are making it worse AGAIN with W’s blessing while he lies about caring about the environment. No Kyoto treaty, but plenty of money to go around to Big Oil.
Katrina victims ARE STILL VICTIMS. Why? Partly because the War on Truth - er, terrorism - is killing off the National Guard instead of letting them do remediation work in the destroyed counties. Partly because the FEMA people are too busy playing with themselves. Partly because the Homeland Insecurity people are plooking each other. And shall we remember the pallets of $100 bills airlifted to Iraq that EVAPORATED and even those that can be traced went to crooked contractors? But no money for water, food, or shelter for those in Louisiana, Mississippi or Alabama??
OK, so the dumba55 didn’t slaughter anyone singlehanded. Didn’t actually commit mass murder HIMSELF. Didn’t turn into Hitler and start mechanically slaughtering the undesirables. He’s still the worst person in the world for working so hard and long to demolish the greatest nation in history. :mad:

Fair enough. No big.

Nope, nope…wrong analogy. AFAICR, “Superman” stood for everything good and fair – at least as the majority of humankind understands said terms. Bush…quite the contrary. A coward playing the role of a bully (thanks to the US’s impressive and unprecedented armed forces) and ordering a random invasion which has cost, again, quite literally, countless of innocent lives. Ever read a Superman comic where he even attempted doing that?

Alright then. I think I pretty much answered queries number 1 and 2, while Dinsdale gave what I thought was a great response to #3 – regardless of how tongue-in-cheek it might have been.

Not much left on the black side of the ledger for Good Ol’ George, is there?

George Frutex Redactum non ut malum ut Kim Jong Il vel Tristifico Hussein

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Welcome aboard. Hope you stick around.

Question. Mind if I use your translation as my new sig line? Me likes it quite a bit. :slight_smile:

I assumed he meant Stalin.

Again, put the goalpost back, please! Why would we limit “the worst person in the world” competition only to the last six years? There’s no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. This quote is irrelevant to the question.

Very little, I agree; indeed, one of the things that continually amazes me about Bush is how he manages to come down on (IMO) the wrong side of every single issue. For the love of Mary, he opposed a resolution condemning the Armenian genocide!

Nevertheless, I am certain there are some things he has done that have alleviated suffering, just as I am sure that Kim Jong Il has alleviated some suffering. And that should go into the calculation, just as the suffering and death actually caused should go into the equation.

There’s a different question (i.e., moved goalposts) that would be interesting: during the period of Bush’s greatest malfeasance, has there been anyone else on earth who has contributed to as much suffering and death? On that different question, you may have a point, although I suspect that the horrors of Sudan are worse than the horrors of Iraq. But at least that’s a place where a rational debate could occur.

Daniel

I’ll see your Bud Selig and raise you a Scott Boras.

I say the dali lama or the pope. Not because they are the worst objectively, but in comparison to their reputations and nominal positions.

I’ll see your Scott Boras and raise you a Daniel Snyder.

Out of those three, I’d say Selig wins hands down. Snyder, as much of a jackass as he is, is constrained by the NFL’s salary cap and revenue sharing system. He can really only ruin the Redskins, and is pretty powerless to affect the rest of the league (aside from giving the three other NFC East teams a couple of extra wins every year).

Boras is undoubtedly a pain in the ass, but he operates in the system that Selig is supposedly running. He can bilk multiple teams out of millions of dollars, but only if the owners agree to it… and the team owners have only themselves to blame for signing any of his players.

Selig has taken the once-proud Major League Baseballl, which used to be America’s passtime, and transformed it into a second-tier league of interest only to fans in a few select cities. He’s caved in to the owners and to the players union, and he’s presided over the biggest scandals in the sport since 1919. I can’t figure out why he hasn’t been dragged out of his office and shot.

Browne with an “e”. :slight_smile: Harry Browne. But he recently died. :frowning:

And if you use the Lancet estimate for the Iraqi deaths Bush has caused with his war, he’s at the top of the Body Count League by a factor of nearly 3.

Cheney hasn’t done anything Bush hasn’t allowed, or wanted, him to do.

Oh, he’s quite short on black, for a person which his resources and influences. Of course, he’s also quote short on red, too, compared to his competition. Sorry; he may do impressive amounts of damage with his ignorance and obliviousness to the effects of his actions, but it still pales in comparison as compared to individuals that are deliberately murderous and oppressive on a grand scale.

Not really. Dead is dead. Dead by incompetence, dead by malice; you rot the same way.