I feel angry about the catholic church. I beleve that if had not existed, the world would be a much better place.
In another thread I started to show the influence the masons and christian had on the world. (Simpified: Masons Good, catholics Bad) and was asked:
I will elaborate on this tommorow, for I need to sign off soon.
Oh. Damn. Well, it is a religious discussion, and I have to sign off soon.
Oh, and treis? Ten days. Also, my whole OP is I feel that the church has produced nothing good. Their might be individual catholic who are good people, but that is in spite of the church. Oh and yes, I realize this is the exact opposite of what most christians say about atheists. Let me start out by pointing out that many of my ancestors were killed in the inquisition. Now, I really have to sign off.
Three of my ancestors were killed in the Civil War fighting for the South (one in a prison camp in NY that was smaller than Andersonville but generally considered not much better) and I’ve never had the least problem with Northerners (except on the individual basis, and I’ve had that with members of my own family). This was probably a much shorter period of time ago than the Catholics killed your ancestors, so either I’m more forgiving or am not a very good descendant.
Who I really hate, though, are Indonesians. It was their damned volcano in Toba in 74,523 BCE that wiped out almost my entire family (it was just after suppertime when they were spreading out on their leaves ready to enjoy a game of pin-the-tail-on-the-Neanderthal) and Indonesia never so much as sent a card. To this day I will drive thousands of miles to avoid Indonesia. (I’m sure some Indonesians are good people, but it’s in spite of the volcanoes.)
Am I the only person who’s imagining Cecil and the Moderators and Administrators gathering around the scriptures and attempting to ascertain if this is “wishing death” rather like Talmud scholars trying to decide if an ornate wooden leg qualifies as vanity if worn on the Sabbath?
Because it’s done nothing good?
I just Googled “catholic church accomplishments” and came up with this page , but I did it while I was thinking, "Just who does this moron think funds any hospital with the name ‘Saint Whatever?’ Has this idiot ever heard of Fordham, Georgetown, or any other Catholic university? Does this wretched mass of barely-conscious biological waste have any conception of the dangers priests in South America endure while simply trying to secure a livable environment for their parishoners? Ever seen Romero, dumbass?
I am a Catholic. I love my Church, apostolic succession, fullness-of-the-faith doctrine, Paulist extremes aside. I love the people in my Church, though they are human and fallible even as I am.
The Catholic Church is a human institution and subject to the limits of humanity. Its size renders its missteps more noticeable than the stumblings of one man, but those stumblings are not its definition- its definition is it adherence to the teachings of Christ and the works it does in His name.
Yesterday the Church was directly responsible for healing thousands, for educating thousands, for feeding, clothing, comforting vast numbers of God’s children, all like you and me but for circumstance.