Change in species

The irony is sublime.

Right off the bat it tells us that real world “natural selection” is based on behavior and every experiment and observation confirm this. Ancient people didn’t take “wolfpups” to create a new species. They selected wolves that acted more like dogs. The selected oddballs that were much less aggressive and much more curious and they bred these and got not wolf pups, they got dogs. Every observation and experiment in every domain says point blank Darwin was wrong. Speciation is a sudden process caused by oddballs surviving a bottleneck. This is just a tiny sample of how wrong we are.

Interesting…

Tell me, where did we get chickens?

Eggs! Specifically chicken eggs.

Nah. Right off the bat you are incorrect.

Guys, before taking time to respond, keep this in mind.

The only arguments I’ve ever won is by wearing down my opponent to the point they agree to shut me up. I believe I have a far better track record winning arguments than most people.

Murray is a pretty sharp cookie but he’s not correct here.

Darwin was right. Natural selection is real and it is still happening in the wild. What you are referring to with regard to wolves isn’t natural selection, it’s artificial selection or selective breeding. Plants, microbes, and animals were evolving on their own long before humans ever came around.

I don’t know your posting history, but man, that is not the own you think it is.

Textbook Dunning-Kruger effect.

Most of it is in a single thread, starting here:

In order to be able to say that someone is wrong, you must first know what it is that they say. For instance, you clearly don’t know what Darwin said, because nothing in your OP contradicts any of it. So if you want to revolutionize science, you need to first learn science. Which you have shown no interest in doing.

From the other side of the road!

He said the fittest survive. He put the cart before the horse. Saying survivors survive is nonsense. Reality sorts behavior. What doesn’t work fails and what does passes on its DNA. All individuals are equally fit. Darwin wasn’t even wrong.

Thank you!

If they hadn’t crossed the road there’d be no reason for humans to look for answers in the fiurst place. :wink:

No, he didn’t. Charles Spencer did. But either way, that’s a four-word summary of Darwin’s book. Of course it leaves out a lot of details.

100% agreed. People whose primary purpose is “winning arguments” or “winning debates” I think are missing the what this place does best.

You are mistaken. In a preface to a later edition he said “survival of the fittest” is a better description than “natural selection” but I like to describe them as equally wrong and equally meaningless.

Are wolves and dogs the same species?

Seems to me Bill Murray got this one correct.

I feel like I should post that video from Billy Madison in every thread this poster starts.