changing a jpg to a pdf file in Serif PhotoPlus X2

After reading a lot of the help menus, I learned how to change a jpg to a pdf in Serif PhotoPlus X2. It looks fine, not jagged or anything. I send it to someone who is to put it up on a web page. He looks at it, the file looks fine, but when he puts it onto the webpage, what we see is not just the art I copied, but the art looks like it’s on a black background with all the toolbars showing, like it’s on a black piece of paper or a desktop. Is this something that I am causing by the way I am saving the file?

Why are you changing it to a PDF in the first place - I can’t see that that is buying you anything.

You can’t just embed a PDF in a webpage. Or rather, you can, but you’ll get all the clutter of whatever plugin is registered on the viewer’s computer with it - or a popup demanding to save the file if there isn’t any plugin available - and also if your plugin happens to be the adobe acrobat reader (more or less the standard on at least windows) it’ll take an age to load it.

If all you want to do is just show a picture, go with a jpg, gif or pdf. It’ll work pretty much everywhere out of the box and have none of the issues.

This is off topic but for vector graphics and such you really want to look at Inkscape

Well, he said that the only file he could use is a pdf. I have no experience with all this, but on the webpage, we have a newsletter, where he can drop items into, but he says they can only be pdf.

I meant PNG instead of PDF here.

I’m pretty sure that openoffice can export PDFs. If you want to get rid of the black background, you can probably use that to put an image on a white page. It’s not pretty but it’ll probably work - note that PDF is really aimed at print; to have it render correctly you’ll pretty much have to choose a page size and position your stuff in however many pages you need.

ETA: and you probably won’t be able to get rid of the adobe reader’s control buttons etc.

Nonsense. Most display graphics on webpages are JPGs, not PDFs.

If you have a file you want supplied intact to the end user as a PDF (newslettter maybe), link to it. Don’t try to display it as PDF. If you want to display a thumbnail with a link to the complete file, make the thumbnail JPG and link to the PDF for download. Many examples (scroll down to newsletters and other PDFs).

Is he incorporating your picture into a newsletter? If so, give him the JPG file and have him insert it into the document, using whatever software he’s using to make the newsletter.

If you just want that picture available on the web by itself (and not as part of a newsletter), have him put it on the web as a JPG file. It doesn’t make any sense to use PDF for this purpose.

Ok, well, I’ll talk with him about that. I’m glad to know that I haven’t done the file wrong somehow.

I did go and look at the admin page of the webpage we’re using, and it really does not let you put anything but a pdf file into the body of the newsletter. When I say newsletter, what I really ought to be saying is group email, that’s really all it is. Anyway, there is a space to put in a link for the body of the newsletter/email. I click browse and put in a jpg file. A box pops up that says This is not a VALID file. Please load a pdf file with an extension of the following: PDF

There are four other boxes where you can input jpg files for different parts of an email. There is one for a header, a coupon, a signature and a footer. All of these are small, maybe 3 or 4 inches tall by whatever the width of the page, so when you put a full 8.5 x 11 document in there, it gets squished.

There’s something else going on here. Perhaps the file is supposed to be a certain pixel dimension height & width? Is this supposed to be a thumbnail-sized pic?

Can you post a link to the sample page if it’s OK for the public to view it? Perhaps we can look at the source code (which may or may not tell us something useful). PM me if you don’t want to reveal the exact URL, but don’t send any secret passwords!

The three types of graphic formats displayed on web pages are .gif images, .jpg images, and .png images. Each has its own “sweet spot” for effectiveness.

GIF and JPG images have been around for a long time. GIF images suffered for a long time under patent threat; that expired in the early years of the web. However, it spured development of the PNG file format for web images. In fact, “PNG” is a recursive acronymn for “PNGs Not GIFs.”

Not all web browsers can properly display PNG images. Internet Explorer, suffers from this, although it’s getting better.

PDF is the file format for document exchange. PDF documents often contain images within the document.

Thank you for the offer, Musicat, but the web page is password protected.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate all your answers and info. I won’t bother trying to figure out different ways to send that file as a pdf then, since it sounds like this black background and toolbar thing isn’t unheard of. We have another person studying the problem at the moment. Hopefully they will get it worked out.


Jeebus, my WAG is you are confusing a display file with a linked file. Typically, a thumbnail is displayed (JPG or GIF), and if the user clicks on it, the linked file (maybe PDF) is downloaded and displayed in a PDF reader. Your web designer should be able to help with that.

That’s exactly the way the page works that I referenced in post #8. The first page of a multi-page document was made into a thumbnail (GIF in this case) using Photoshop. The thumbnail is displayed on the web page. Click on the thumbnail and the entire, multi-page PDF doc is downloaded and displayed in a PDF reader. Is that what you want to do?