Characters that ruin a work for you

Oh, yeah; agreed.

Heheh. Seconded.

But more importantly, Sitnam! You trust me right, I’ve got your back on Ignatius. So do as I say and go listen to a few episodes of the podcast Up Yours, Downstairs. They function on a background assumption that Cora is slightly brain damaged, and Kelly does a wicked impression of her. Especially when she says luncheon. I think it might allow you to watch Downton without wanting to slap the taste out of Cora’s mouth, and in any case will give you a few good laughs.

We should all just book tickets now for a flight to London next year to watch the third series.

I’m SO in.

Thomas Covenant.

I’ll have to do that, Thanks.

Brienne is the one who really annoys me, for some reason. I think it’s the complete lack of a personality, as though “warrior maid who - get this - isn’t hot!!” is a complete characterisation.

Also, any of the children who are supposed to be acting like children (Sansa, Rickon, Viserys, Joffrey, to name a few). Martin appears to be only capable of writing whiny brats or small versions of adults.

Also, Hodor. Pointless, dull, patronising, and unbelievable.

Especially for me, it’s Viserys who is the whiniest of adults (in GoT)…but his exit (nsfw) is pretty memorable.

Yeah, she’s horrible, but it’s so perfect how horrible she is. Her fatally limited perspective is so naturally integrated in her personality, so perceptively and ruthlessly drawn, and it makes the tragedy she generates so inevitable.

Lydgate, who starts out as not a particularly likeable character except for his scientific enthusiasm, IMO ends up being one of the most sympathetic figures in the book, because of the realization of how he has maimed his life, his career and his personality by chaining himself to this, well, monster. Try Middlemarch again sometime, please, with a colder contempt for Rosamund, and see if you can bear her monumentally exasperating horribleness just for the sake of seeing how it uncoils through the plot like a long slow snake of Nemesis.

As far as eventual comeuppance goes, what would be the point of punishing Rosamond? She’s too spiritually stunted ever to understand what she’s guilty of; she has no capacity for real remorse. That’s why Lydgate is punished far worse than Rosamond for making much smaller mistakes: he has the self-awareness to realize what he’s done, and that’s ultimately what comeuppance is all about.

There’s not just the one character, though. All of them have their turn at failing spectacularly in situations related to doing their jobs, even, so you get lots of opportunity to spread the hate around.

Besides, you have to know that there was a Rosamond or two out there that got completely skewered by the author’s creation of the character. Not that they’d recognize themselves, necessarily. Just that everyone else would.

Darrin Stevens in Bewitched (the '60s version). The guy was such a jerk towards his wife that I can’t even watch the show. Endora was perfectly correct.

Gwen ruined it for you? Change that G to an O and I’ll agree. Gwen is inoffensive, the Frog Faced Rapist on the other hand… Everything about him repels me.

Yeah, I like him, too. If I were Corbin, or anyone else who actually had to deal with him personally, I’d probably want to knock him upside the head, but since I don’t, and get to watch other people deal with him…yeah, fun.

I like Sansa as a character. She’s supposed to be a vapid 13 year old in over her head, and that’s exactly how she comes across. Similarly, I don’t think Cat is a bad character because she always thinks she knows what’s best for her family (even though she’s often wrong). I know a lot of mothers like that.

warren ( flayed or unflayed ) on buffy.

Ahh, yes. Good point.

I agree, he was the perfect character at the perfect place in the movie.

Bzzzzt!
Roddy

Wow. You lasted a chapter?

Well yeah maybe not the best, perhaps just the best combination of character and memorability.

Too late. That would explain a lot though.

Absolutely agreed, this was a man so insecure and small minded he married a god and never even took advantage of her powers. I mean she could have taken them on a neverending Doctor Who like tour of the freaking universe and instead he screams at her for doing the dishes with her nose. She conspires with their half-deity children to hide magic use from him, this would be like a guy marrying a Russian woman and screaming at her for speaking Russian and making her only use it when he isn’t around with the children.