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In general I’m opposed to the death penalty, but I’m willing to make an exception in this case.
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So you do favour the death penalty.
You may have a stricter personal standard for when it is appropriate, but you do favour it in the appropriate case.
I’m not sure I agree with the idea, but we do it because it is really the ONLY thing we can take away from people who we don’t want around at all. Most beings at their core want to live, even in captivity.
So taking away their freedom doesn’t count? Why not?
I hope he gets well in time to accept his upcoming cabinet position.
Well, if Jeff Sessions can’t get confirmed as Attorney General, I’m sure Trump will look into it.
“Charles Manson. Great guy. Inspired the Beatles. Lots of experience with the Justice system. Just what we need!” @TheRealDonaldTrump. 
Most prisons don’t have a ‘hospital’. What they have is a doctor’s office serving a village of people who don’t want to be living there. Any many things come up that can’t be handled in the office, and must go out to the hospital.
Most prisons have arrangements with local hospitals to take care of inmates. Our local ERs are used to dealing with inmates and security. Our system has two hospitals with ‘secure’ units on them, which are basically extensions of the prison into said hospital. Full security measures are taken there. That’s where most of our patients who need hospitalization go.
It’s not a big deal. Security comes first, it is job one when any inmate goes out.
Charles Manson has survived the death penalty, being set on fire, and now this at age 82?
I hope he dies a slow painful death, though it won’t be as bad as his victims.
That is precisely what I was going to post. (Good thing I read the thread this time.)
I think it’s for more than just the killings, a number of which have never been officially solved or prosecuted. (The cowboy “Shorty” - was Tex ever charged/sentenced for that? Others mentioned in Helter Skelter?) He was an evil, destructive personality who destroyed the lives of many. While that’s not always illegal in itself, he broke enough laws that he should have been gassed ca. 1975.
Manson is held at Corcoran prison. It opened in 1988 and seems pretty modern. It has an acute care hospital. But I understand that it’s more cost effective to use a general hospital’s facilities for any diagnostic or surgical care.
California State Prison, Corcoran - Wikipedia
I’ll be glad when Manson is gone from this earth. But society is obligated to give him basic medical care until that’s no longer needed. That burden fell on us after his sentence was commuted to Life.
Well, that’s me fucked then!
May God have mercy on his soul. As soon as possible.
Regards,
Shodan
Personally, I think he’s considered a big deal because he got young white girls to kill for him. That, and targeting celebrities.
Even so, Sharon Tate was a accident. He was really after Doris Day’s son for rejecting his music.
I think it’s pretty messed up that this POS gets free healthcare while so many struggle to pay or go without. :mad:
I have that sentiment not infrequently. Meanwhile I continue to provide needed medical care to my most fascinating patient clientele. You just don’t see the stuff I see in the general non-incarcerated primary care population anymore.
That’s one theory, but multiple sources, including Manson family member Tex Watson, all say that Manson was aware that Terry Melcher (Day’s son) had moved out of the residence that Tate and Roman Polanski moved into.
Any of it published?
I used to comment on some of it here, but every time I did, I got accused of HIPAA violations. They were certainly not HIPAA violations, but I got tired of having to constantly explain how it wasn’t.
[sub]Rule of thumb. If the person doesn’t know how to spell HIPAA correctly, they won’t know what they’re talking about when referring to HIPAA violations either.[/sub]
Otherwise, these cases are not notable in the big picture of medicine, they’re just notable for having so much interesting pathology available in such a small population.
This is why we can’t have nice things!
It must be strange giving examinations to violent prisoners. Men that are known to attack guards whenever an opportunity arises.
Arkansas had a guard attacked and killed just last month.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/19/sheriff-arkansas-jail-employee-dies-after-attack-by-inmate.amp.html?client=ms-android-motorola
I’ve heard that Manson has been a model prisoner. He’s too smart to create trouble for himself in prison. That just gets privileges revoked.