I drove by the one near my office this morning to see what the crowd looked like, and the drive through line literally spiraled around the building so that the cars pulling away from the window had to alternate with the cars in line to get out of the parking lot.
The one on my side of town had lines around the block.
I know this site is populated mostly by more liberal-minded folk, so they aren’t going to look too kindly on Chick-Fil-A’s owner’s stand on the gay marriage issue. Myself, it isn’t an issue I care about at all, one way or another. I don’t consider homosexuality a sin because I don’t believe in the concept of sin. I also don’t think that giving everyone equal rights equates to telling people their religious beliefs are wrong.
But I also think that the people supporting Chick-Fil-A because they agree with the religious stance of the owner are no worse than the mayor of Boston trying to keep the company out of his city. They’re each trying to advance their moral views via economic pressure.
Yes, because one bad representative of a group of millions of people is reflective of the entire group. Always has been true, that’s just logic. If it was a black guy who phoned it in, they’re all responsible as well. The problem will come if it was a black gay guy- then you’ll have both groups claiming credit.
Yes, it was a banner day for publicly proclaiming your bigotry.
They were having a special: by two combos, punch a southern girl’s vagina for free.
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I love the way so many seem to believe that NOT buying a chicken sandwich makes them Rosa Parks, Gandhi, and Nathan Hale rolled into one.
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There’s certainly no comparison in the scale of the boycott or the severity of the provocation- it’s the the difference basically in a flea bite (Chick Fil A) and a copperhead bite (the Jim Crow laws/the English occupation/being executed for joinging a rebellion). There is at least filament thin connection on the “refusing to patronize those who view you as scum” front, however; what point, aside from bigotry, is proven by waiting in line for more than an hour for a chicken sandwich?
Did I say that? No, but he/she did feed into the bigots POV. Or can you not tell the difference between logic and political reality? Of course I’d say its probably 50 percent chance of random wackadoodle. 30 to 40 percent chance of “political savy right winger” looking to make “you guys” look bad. And the rest some random gay/lesbian/supporter politically unsavy dipshit.
In terms of perceptions, it doesn’t matter who actually did it. People were threatened, and given the reason for the crowd being there, it’s entirely natural for them to feel targeted on that basis. This will harden some of them in their attitudes. So if it was a gay person lashing out, that doesn’t make other gay people responsible, but it does hurt their shared cause a little.
I don’t know. Seems to me that in the long term this is bad for Chick-fil-a. This guarantees that the stigma will not go away, but their idealogically motivated customers won’t be lining up like this every day. They won’t want chicken sandwiches every day. Can supporting the business in big numbers on one day make up for the overall loss in day-to-day customers among the increasingly gay-friendly world that an increasingly gay-friendly population of young people are going to be in charge of the world soon? And what about the college campuses that will be under pressure to let their contracts with Chick-fil-a lapse, and not pick up new ones? Is it possible that malls will also want to avoid the hassle of a political controversy in their food courts?
I think that if your goal was to actually support Chick-fil-a, you’d want to put out the word in the conservative media to keep supporting them, but not make a fiery event out of it. That fire could burn bridges that can’t be mended.
Do you really believe that anybody would hold this against all gays who wasn’t already a bigot and-or a total moron? That would be like suspecting all neuroscience students are closet movie theater mass murderers.
You cannot worry what perceptions are going to be made on stupid people or fanatics. Just run an episode of The George Lopez Show or Yes Dear that they haven’t seen before and they’ll totally forget about it before the opening credits are done.
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Lets put it this way.
Tell us how this bomb threat HELPS your cause. If you were running the “pro gay resistance” would you think this bomb threat was a good idea even if you knew there would be NO way they could ever figure out who did it? I doubt it.
Yeah, Sampiro, why’d you do it? :dubious:
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Lets put it this way.
Tell us how this bomb threat HELPS your cause. If you were running the “pro gay resistance” would you think this bomb threat was a good idea even if you knew there would be NO way they could ever figure out who did it? I doubt it.
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Would whoever argued that a bomb threat would help this cause please answer this guy? Preferably twice, apparently.
You’re assuming Chick-fil-A is losing a significant amount of business from people boycotting. Admittedly I know a lot of people who are claiming they are boycotting but I don’t know if they generally went their to eat in the first place.
Wait… What?
So you don’t have an answer huh? Well if it won’t help then it most probably hurts. Or do think most things are magically neutral? And if one of “your guys” did it he/she was an idiot. Good thing you aren’t running a politcal campaign.
I am not now, never have been known as a person of few words OR as somebody who shies away from an argument. I have tens of thousands of posts that attest to that point. I don’t think I’m generally considered a mental lightweight either, so I hope that is taken into account when I say I don’t have the time or the inclination to respond to an argument that ridiculous and wholly without merit.
So proclaim victory if you wish; pretend you got a chicken sandwich and learned how to use the Enter button all in one fowl swoop.
[Arte Johnson as German soldier in bushes]"Fowl swoop… get it? Fowl… like das Hühnchen![Arte Johnson as German soldier in bushes]
I thought y’all might like to know that KFC loves gays!
So, no answer huh?
I used to stop at the one on my way home from work a few times a month, and sometimes on the way to work (the chicken bagel on their breakfast menu is transcendental), but not any more.
Frankly though, I do suspect the same as you, that the boycott is more symbolic than substantial.