Chickenhawks at the SDMB

This is wonderful. Nothing has shown the absurdity of the term “chickenhawk” like these late examples.

Hell, even “hawk” and “dove” are overly simplistic, and belittling of a person’s political and moral convictions.

Something we can actually agree on.

Can I be a swan, or a flamingo, or maybe an egret, if I’m willing to stick out my neck rather far for something I believe is worthwhile? I welcome other suggestions.

You could have been a quail if you’d joined the National Guard to defend your state during the Vietnam War.

Ahh, I spy a mated pair of Tawny Frogmouths

Oom-Oom-OOom!

People like you would require even The Bible to be published with emoticons.

Yellow-breasted Sapsucker, you.

Looks like Mr. Moto is rejecting my advances. :stuck_out_tongue:

Frankly, you’ve been such an asshole to me in the past, I wasn’t sure if you’re taking a cheap shot, or just making a joke. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here, so Hahaha, good one 'ol boy.

Save your breath. Anti-Vietnam War demonstrations are the Holy Grail of '60s activist types. Pointing out that they were motivated in a large part by a desire not to be drafted and dropped off dramatically after the draft ended is pointless. See, they were committed, man. They believed in opposing an immoral war, man, and dude, they changed the world. For some reason they are ashamed to admit that they acted out of enlightened self interest, not grand nobility. Facts can’t penetrate the 30-some year old shield of false justifications for their imagined glorious crusade that they have built up in their minds.

That would explain why, when Joan Baez pointed out that the North Vietnamese victory produced misery in the South, and the boat people, her former lefty friends raked her over the coals.

Can’t have reality intrude on our little mental utopias, now.

Slight hijack…

I sometimes wonder if supporters of war actually have a political view on why it should be supported, or if they just like seeing things being blown up. I bet 5 times out of 10 it’s the latter.

I can’t think of any good reason why war is a good idea in any situation. Hasn’t it become apparent now that instead of solving problems it creates more? It’s funny how we teach children to talk out their problems instead of trying to resolve them violently, but we don’t practice what we preach.

That might be what you teach your children. In this era of bullies, I’m going to teach mine never, ever, to become a target.

If that means walking away from confrontation, very well. But if that doesn’t work, there’s nothing shameful about defending yourself if you’re attacked.

Different mindsets, I guess. Having been the target of bullies when I was younger, I hope to spare my kids some of the misery I faced.

It’s not that war is ever a “good idea,” it’s that sometimes war is unavoidable.

Yes, children are taught that talking things out is better than fighting them out, and most of the time issues can be resolved that way. Unfortunately, though, not every kid on the playground has been taught the same concept, or is capable of understanding it. So fights happen. They are unfortunate, and sometimes you just want to knock one of the kids upside the head because they didn’t bother even trying to talk it out, but they don’t make a hypocrite out of the kid who didn’t want to fight.

Sarcasm, sir or ma’am.

P.S. I claim “penguin.”

Make sure you teach him to never get hit by a car or shot either. :rolleyes:

Sure will, as we all should.

Be careful crossing the street, go only with the light. If you’re young, hold a grownup’s hand.

Be careful around guns. Treat every firearm as a loaded weapon. If you find a gun, don’t pick it up, and find a grownup to help you.

There are things we can do about car accidents and accidental shootings. Similarly, there are things we can do about bullies, too.

This notion that we’re powerless to do anything is growing a generation of whining victims, with another class of people shamefully exploiting this group. Could be a bully, could be a fearmongering politician, could be a self-help charlatan. There are plenty of people willing to feast on a nation of sheep.

How about a fearmongering president scaring a nation of sheep?

Hitch-cock?

A long necked bird? - how 'bout the Shag?

Boy, that link was geeky.

Are you trying to call me an ostrich by another name? Ostrich is some mighty fine eatin’.