If not these particular girls, their predecessors.
Anyone who does not understand the context of this OP at the moment–well, that’s a shame. Google it.
If you have to ask, you can’t afford them.
I seem to remember Boko Haram means something like western forbidden, it is a movement to go sharia by eliminating everything western/christian.
I would imagine that the girls being sold off are taken out of their home region and sold to ‘fundamentalist’ muslims. I would also imagine they are becoming the third/fourth wives of established men - so they have someone to ‘train’ them how to do housework and behave. Once in these households, they will never be seen outside the homes again or at least not for a hell of a long time.
Historically, the slave trade has existed world wide, for a very long time. And persists even today.
Historically, the European slave trade was centered in France, where the slaves were sold to Muslim middle men for shipment to what is now “The Middle East”.
The most common source of white “christian” slaves were the “slavic” states, and Northern Europe. It was common practice for unwanted children from these areas to be sold into slavery.
Similarly, the African black slave trade involved black slavers capturing black slaves, selling them to Muslim slavers, who marched them up through the Sahara to the Mediterranean, from where they were shipped to the Islamic Middle east.
This trade was briefly expanded when the Atlantic slave trade developed and the markets in the Caribbean and America were opened up.
When the “Christian” countries finally banned slavery in the 19th century, the trade refocused on the Islamic nations, where it is still institutionalized.
The Mediterranean slave trade was briefly stopped in the 19th Century when the USA sent the US Marines in to attack the slaving states of North Africa, in the first “Barbary War”. (Remember the Marine Anthem: "The halls of Tripoli…etc)
This trade resumed shortly after, and has continued to this day.
The market for “christian” and other slaves is still thriving today. In Europe it is centered on the sex industry, and is controlled by large crime syndicates. In other parts of the world, slaving is a joint enterprise between crime syndicates and some governments; Vietnam being the more notorious of the government players.
A large proportion of the slaves, be they “christian” or other, end up in the Islamic countries of the Middle East. Most slaves disappear into the region, and are never heard from again. In other words, their life expectancy is very low.
So what we have seen in the past weeks in Africa is nothing new, or unusual. It is just that the world has suddenly taken notice of a problem that has existed for a very long time.
My source for all of this is a couple of friends who are police officers working with Interpol to fight world wide human trafficking.
Where did you get this? I doubt that half of what you posted is correct.
When do you feel Muslim traders were sailing into France to buy slaves? Who do you imagine these slaves were?
Slavery pretty much disappeared in Western Europe because they was a long period when there was no nearby source for obtaining slaves. Why would Muslims be going to France to buy slaves? If Muslim slave traders had gone to France it would have made more sense for them to bring slaves to sell there. The Muslims had better access to the places where slaves were captured than the French did. (And the slave traders didn’t bother selling slaves in Western Europe. In addition to religious hostility, Western Europe didn’t have enough money to be a worthwhile market.)
The Church actively forbid enslaving Christians. That’s one reason slaves were taken in Eastern Europe. Slave buyers could claim that they were only enslaving pagans. (In actuality, nobody bothered distinguishing between Christians and pagans.)
Why would slave traders march through the Sahara desert? Slave traders aren’t stupid. They set up trading ports along the East African coast and shipped their slaves by boat.
The Atlantic slave trade from West Africa to the Americas had virtually nothing to do with the Indian Ocean slave trade from East Africa to the Middle East.
The Barbary Wars were about tribute payments not slavery. At the time the first Barbary War was fought the slave trade was still legal in the United States so it wouldn’t have made much sense to send Marines off to suppress it.
Morroco, Tunisia, etc… I guess he meant the French controlled parts of the southern shore of the Mediterranean.
But anyway … the topic is about modern day Nigeria and Niger…
The area is of the Niger ethnic group. Niger is mostly Muslim.
The girls are christian and so buying them as a slave is saving them ! (By their logic… )
I think he meant he was going to sell them to his own solders for wives. There is a audio clip of his talking in english about it but the news just plays like 5 seconds of it. If anyone can find the full version it would explain it better.
I suggest it would be informative for you to Google “European Slavery”.
You should get around 21,000,000 hits; and all of the questions you have asked should be answered there.
Are you asking me to find cites for your post?
No, I am saying that the easiest way of informing yourself about the subject is to follow my suggestion.
It is not a productive use of time for me to spoon feed you information that is readily available.
1.) Not all the Nigerian girls kidnapped were Christian, though it certainly appears a majority were. While Boko Haram are Islamist lunatics, they are out there even by the standards of your average whackadoodle terrorists. It is unlikely it really matters a whit to them what religion the girls were other than as additional talking points - they kidnap and kill fellow Muslims all the time ( especially non-Kanuri Muslims ) The fact that those girls were being educated at all was the salient point in their fucked up ideology. Even other Islamists think they are nuts - one of their ideological forefathers was by orthodox Muslim standards essentially a heretic. You don’t get far with most normative Muslims denying the prophet-hood of Muhammad. Even these fucknuts think they are a little crazy and they’re purportedly an offshoot.
2.) The ravings of their current self-appointed leader about “slave markets” should be taken with a healthy heaping of salt. Though I have no doubt they can find ways to barter girls to any number of unsavory locals and near-locals, I am unaware of any open-air slave marts still in existence. I doubt there is a going price list, but really the particulars are ultimately unimportant. The fact that they may end up in enforced servitude somewhere, including as sex slaves to these whackadoos, is issue enough.
3.) The history of slavery is pretty much a non-sequitor to the OP far as I can tell. So while I’d disagree with some of the particulars of what has been posted so far, I don’t really see the point in getting that off-topic.
My advice to the OP is that next year you should do your Mother’s Day shopping early so you’re not scrambling for a last-minute gift.
The girls are mixture of Christian and Muslim, it is not “christian black african” it is Nigerian girls. Africa is not a country.
The madman that runs the Boko Haram is talking of trafficing among his bandits.
Boko in Nigerian Hausa refers to the latin characters and the latin writing system for the Hausa language. It comes from the English for book. This contrasts to the writing in Arabic script of the Hausa language which was before the English the traditional writing, in 3jam.
It means latin writing and thus learning is forbidden. The founder wanted to go back to the traditional writing and learning. It is not even Charia, it is the strange Boko Haram beliefs that are in no way Sunnah.
They are madmen and bandits who now have become a problem because of the arms that are being contrabanded from the Libye following the collapse there. They are not new, but the arms they have access to are new.
it has destabilized the region and the Nigerian army has been wrong-footed by this. The claims that they do nothing that some journalists have made are ignorant and superficial. It is true the Nigerian military has been incompetent, but since 2011 there has been almost a civil war in the North East of Nigeria, all from the arms that are leaking down from the Libye that these crazy bandits can buy and then use in their campaigns of intimidation against the population.
Please save your imaginations. None of this is true. The Boko Haram has used kidnapped girls inside their own group. There is not slave markets in the region and it is gross and offensive prejudice and ignorance on Africa that I keep seeing 'imaginations" on this.
I do not think so.
Yes they are madmen and have no respect among the population which is why they massacre in order to instill fear. they are not very different from the supposed Christian Lords Army in the Uganda.
Yes, thank you for showing this. This is again like that strange and bizarre movement in the Uganda. It is marginal madmen who exploit unemployed youths and who have trafficked in arms.
This is correct. As were the interventions of even sven in the other thread.
It continues to disgust me that misinformation and ignorant imaginings about Africa are again and again presented as facts and observations. I thank you and even sven for bringing actual thought and not prejudice.
OK, I’ll take half a dozen. Wrap them to go please.
Seriously though, with this difference between posters on the extent of slavery in Europe, are we including forced prostitution as slavery? Because it seems to me the poor girls involved are slaves in all but name and if it is so included then slavery is still rife in Europe (and the good old USA too I shouldn’t wonder).
I am sorry it isThe Lord’s Resistance Army
Not really to make the White Pride people happy but Christian slavery is generally paired more with white slavery. Yes, more than 1 million young European girls and boys from Spain, Italy, France, sometimes as far as England were abducted as recently as 1900 and made sex slaves. They were sold by Arab slavers to Sheikhs and whoever to stable harems.
This is a reference to the Mediterranean piracy called in English the Barbary Piracy.
It is not accurate to talk of sex slaves (or Arab shiekhs, which is ignorance, the pirates were Ottoman -usually Turkish - and European renegates, very often Dutch).
Most of this slave taking was for either mining or the galleys - not very different than the spanish and Italian practices - or even more often for being ransomed by the Catholic orders that did so, which was quite profitable for the Reis (the Ottomans captains).
Very few such slaves had anything to do with sexual slavery.
Abducted white European girls were enslaved by whoever. Why do you think prostitution and sexual enslavement are called "“white slavery?”
Going back to question 2 in the OP:
The name that the group calls itself is an Arabic phrase meaning “the Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.” Other people in Nigeria started calling them “Boko Haram.” “Boko” mean something like “Latin alphabet” or, figuratively, “Western (or secular) education” in Hausa. “Haram” means “forbidden” in Arabic. There’s some dispute about this:
For those interested in the broader aspects of contemporary slavery, I suggest that you Google: “Interpol human trafficking”.