“So how’s that whole family valuesy-right to lifey thing workin’ out for ya?”
U.S. Code Title 18 § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
In addition to that they’re facing a more serious charge, though: U.S. Code Title 18 § 2332a, attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. That could carry a sentence of up to life in federal prison.
So was Dan Aykroyd, right before he ate Albert Brooks’s face.
Heh heh, cool reference.
Since this hutaree group was plotting to kill the police, there’s your respect for law and order. Since they were also plotting to attack at this policeman’s funeral - where taking a wild ass guess - the bereaved family would be (including any children), there’s the family values and respect for life. But they aren’t terrorists, they are good christian patriots :rolleyes:
Throw the book at them, and put them away forever.
Man, I LOVE this song!
They kinda make the Phelpses look like a buncha pussies, wot?
We’ve tortured Americans too; there was a recent news story about the torture of American whistleblowers. Not that I expect that right wing, white Christian fanatics will be treated with anything but kid gloves.
So was Jose Padilla.
I think it’s imperative that we take these militia dudes, transfer them to military custody, deny them access to attorneys, refuse them habeas corpus rights, and torture them. Anyone who disagrees with me is obviously a traitor.
Well, thats sort of the point. The courts told the gov’t they couldn’t hold Padilla as an “double secret combatant” or whatever the term was. So presumably the current crop of conspirators are protected by the same decision.
Plus the current gov’t is less nuts then the one that tried to black-bag Padilla.
It’s either funny or sad, but that is what my initial instinct tells me we should do. But if we do, what do they become? They become Martyrs To The Cause. That’s the last thing we want.
It should be a public civilian court, with news, cameras, reporters, as much openness and transparency as we can muster. And then let the prosecutor do his thing. Let all the country know what sort of people (and I use the term loosely) they really are. And then, if convicted, don’t execute or rendition them, just sentence them to several life sentences, to be served consecutively, with no chance of parole. Ever. But no death penalty because then they become martyrs.
They didn’t actually kill anybody, for all we know, they are just a bunch of wanking wanabees.
Not exactly. The courts rulings on Padilla aren’t that clear. You can check out his wik on Padilla for more info.
But, there are a number of people who claim that the 2006 Military Commissions Act gives the executive the power to indefinitely detain US citizens. So, I think this would make a good test case. We should ship these militia dudes off to a military brig.
If Obama doesn’t ship these militia dudes off to military detention and torture, that’s because he’s obviously an Islamo-Kenyan who wants to destroy the US.
I don’t know if it was a coincidence or not, but there was a loud ‘boom’ last night that rattled the windows and sent people into the street to see what happened. I just heard on the news that it was a large pipe bomb that went off in the park right across the Willamette River from us. :eek::eek::eek:
" I am come not to bring peace, but a lightweight, 5.56 mm, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed assault rifle, with a rotating bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas operation."
Hutaree’s website is still up, for the moment.
Ah, c’mon, these guys are going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
Sometimes your act really does get old, y’know?
I believe there’s a manual with separate sections on Appearing Menacing, and Camo: buff, beige or biscuit best with olive? You decide! It’s free if you’re a member of the Twisted Worldview Polemic Society (TWIPS for short), but $19.95 an issue if not. They take Visa and MC, no checks.
On a more serious note: this is messed up. It’s too bad they most likely won’t get to Gitmo, but regular prison seems good, too…
I like to stand next to him in the photos so I can see what I would look like as a centrist.
Ha.
I am reminded of the Brewster Rockit cartoon where Agent X shows Brewster some ancient-astronaut drawings:
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Alien lands among primitive humans and is worshipped as a god.
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Alien attempts to explain that he is not a god but simply a traveler from another place.
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Primitive humans pelt alien with stones for not believing in their god.