No, they wouldn’t They would have all died in a day or so, and all sunk to bottom at nearly the same time. There would be one big layer of dead things, and then all the silt and rocks. While there might be some stuff mixed in, the majority of it would be dead animals. We would only see multiple layers if these things died in at multiple times over a long period of time. Which is exactly what we see.
Duh. Before Darwin nearly everyone was a creationist because no one knew how man could have appeared otherwise. I also mentioned how older scientists mentioned God in their work.
Note how the number of biologists on your list drops significantly after Darwin.
The AIG people are too stupid and/or dishonest to note that being a scientist does not offer special authority in fields of which they know nothing. Using Riemann as an authority is a real knee slapper. Mendel btw was a monk. And for the most part people well established by the time the Origin came out are more likely to not accept the new and radical theory.
There has been quite a lot more evidence of evolution since then. I remember a list of current “scientists” who were creationists, which also ran very strongly to unqualified people. IIRC someone came out with a list of biologist named Paul or something who accept evolution which was much longer.
No one has a problem with ancients, born before we found out this stuff, getting it wrong. Getting it wrong now is another matter entirely.
The Himalayas are still growing today as India continues to crash into Asia.
I live very near the Hayward fault. They dug a hole in a park which let people go down and see the fault directly. In fact a block of concrete in the parking lot is split, since the fault goes through the middle of it. Even more spectacular is a park north of San Francisco with a fence which got separated by fifteen feet during the San Francisco earthquake of 1906.
All this stuff is happening today without the hand of god being necessary.
Not at the point of impact, that is for sure. But the impact would have stirred up lots of dust and debris which could have fallen on animals and buried them, just as people were buried in Pompey. The clue to the impact was sediment at the KT boundary.
I heard Luis Alvarez talk about this at Princeton before they found the crater. It is very convincing. Whether the impact really killed off the dinosaurs is a bit open, but that it happened isn’t.
So, lighter animals should be on top. How do you explain trilobites being below dinosaurs then? In fact the ordering corresponds to evolutionary history, not density.
Very few things fossilize, and animals buried by flash floods are going to be more likely to, so we have plenty of cases of fossil fields from local flash flooding. It is just not global.
BTW, I don’t think the Egyptians had a flood legend - but they knew all about flooding.
first hit on google for Egyptian flood legend
hot links are to same page.
edit: the Egyptian origin story is pretty cool and conceptually similar
Ahhh…but the faithful see the Hand of God in everything. Earthquake? Flood? Nuclear War? Proof that God loves us!
“Probably”? You assume a lot. According to Benny Hill and Dear Abby, when you assume, you make an “ass” of “u” and “me.”
I read a book titled Science Is a Sacred Cow, by Anthony Standen, himself a scientist. He devoted an entire chapter to the scientific method. And that doesn’t count the passing acquaintance (the best term I could muster here) for the method when I took science in high school, and college. Plus the definition in my dictionary (Random House Webster’s College Dictionary, 1992 edition): “a method of research in which a problem is identified, relevant data are gathered, a hypothesis is formulated, and the hypothesis is empirically tested.” The dictionary’s etymology traces the term back to about 1850. This was 100 years before Standen published his book.
Your last paragraph is the quintessence of impudence. I still make a distinction between your concept of “magic” and any divine miracle, like it or lump it.
No we don’t.
The local bronze-age world view was that the earth was a surface with a dome. All surrounded by water.
The flood happened by Yaweh opening hatches in the dome, so the waters above would pour through it. The fountains in the deep were opened so the water from beneath could come up.
That is in no way a description of tectonic movement.
We know of tectonic movement by studying our surroundings, not by studying the bible.
No they’re not totally composed of ocean-sediment. Some* layers *are.
For the third time, you’ve cited an endtimes prophecy, claiming it is inaccurate.
MT 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Let me know what year this all happened please.
Cite please, Cambrian strata where?
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
This includes the earth, not implying plants in space.
MT 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Not seeing the reference to a single generation, please cite that.
Sorry, but i could tread water for a day if my life depended on it, and there are better swimmers than me. You are forgetting flying creatures too.
I am not denying any tectonic shift. Please see the hydroplate theory.
If you could cite where dust created conditions to preserve fossils, that would be great, thanks.
This is a little off topic, but maybe you can cite some intermediate or previous trilobites with simple eyes. Or you can admit that the trilobite eye was extremely complex to begin with.
The water came from below, not above… The firmament dividing the heavens in Genesis 1 is not the earth’s crust.
The definition of scientific method you mention is pretty much exactly what I wrote about the experiment.
My familiarity with this stuff is a bit more than a college class - more like dozens of papers, hundreds of reviews, and a bit of journal editing.
Now how science really works is a lot more complicated than you learn for a science 101 class or a dictionary definition, but the point remains that Pasteur;s hypothesis had nothing to do with the early earth. Plus, an experiment which does not offer the possibility of falsifying the hypothesis is totally useless. If you don’t see that, I can explain it.
As for magic, God saying let there be light and light poofing into existence sounds like magic to me. Your special pleading is that it’s different when goddidit - it ain’t.
I skimmed pages and pages looking for anything clear. I finally got to the claim of isostasy - which I actually know about, having done a paper on it in junior high, before plate tectonics was accepted. I didn’t see a lot of data backing it up - just some pictures. He clearly doesn’t accept any kind of dating, so the vastly different ages of different mountain chains probably won’t be considered.
The point is that we see all the things needed for mountain building today, without the need of any miracles or very rapid movement of the continents, which it seems these so called theories explain.
Why not? They evolved for millions or tens of millions of years also. Why shouldn’t their eyes be complex?
As for your cite, it is the typical appeal to additional discoveries to prove science is wrong. He says that dinosaurs being above trilobites doesn’t mean that they are separated in time, but he never explains why we don’t see trilobites on top of dinosaurs. So, not very convincing. A geologist could surely do a better job of explaining why he is full of it. Again, I’m sure he doubts the results of radioactive dating which confirm the great distance in time between these layers.