Individual strands of rna or dna are not considered to be living - viruses are basically dna in a shell.
From my understanding of the experiment, they use existing dna to save time. Do you think it is impossible for someone to assemble at least a short stand of dna?
I searched on dna synthesis hoping to find an experiment, but it seems to be easy enough so that there are ads! Here is one example - real biologists, please tell me if this counts.
But no one claims these guys are creating life.
Sorry, Im not following what you said about ‘a fulfilled misreading of a prophecy of the virgin birth’, and the twisting of the Messianic prophecies.
The Dead Sea Scrolls confirm all the prophecies, exactly. Matthew 1 and Luke 3 give the genealogies showing his legal right and bloodline to be king. For example, if you think a passage like Isaiah 53 applies to anyone else, please share your thoughts.
I believe the Bible to be literally true. I simply quoted the site stating those fossils did not form following a global catastrophe.
I have no idea what this has to do with mountains, but if you multiply 23.8 million years by .25 inches a year (a figure I assume you pulled out of thin air), you will get something like a mountain.
Multiply a quarter of an inch per year by 23.8 million years and see what you get.
From the same cite: “One reason the Chicxulub impact is of such interest is that it is thought to be responsible for the vast extinction of species that took place 65 million years ago.”
Ibid, two sentences later: “The Chicxulub impact changed the Earth’s weather conditions so drastically that all the dinosaurs died off. This enabled mammals to assume the dinosaur’s dominant position.” I have no idea what you think you’re saying here.
Is this what you mean? First synthetic bacterium.
What many Christians, esp. fundamentalists have a problem with is seeing how inanimate matter becomes animate. And when you look at the complexity of even fairly “simple” life, it can be a bit overwhelming. But you have to remember that even the “simple” life forms have been evolving for billions of years - unless of course you don’t subscribe to that timeline and/or evolution.
But if you don’t have a problem there, the general consensus I would say from my general reading is that most molecular biologists, if they had to guess, would probably favor the first replicating molecules as some type of RNA. I don’t recall the reasons off hand but I can try to dig something up for you if you’re interested.
The problem is that you also needed a membrane to protect the replicating material, a source of new material and a host of other issues that I just don’t recall off hand. But when you start looking at it from the molecular level, step by step, yes, it’s still mind boggling, but not all that mysterious.
Actually a lot of the early accounts of vampires and strigoi (sp?) didn’t have blood drinking. They had people coming back to life - typically to curse the living.
So the Sun isn’t necessary for water (I guess it doesn’t freeze?)? How did the plants get nutrients via photosynthesis? Also, why is the Sun necessary now?
As to the Moon, the Bible says it’s a light, not hat it reflects light. It’s supposed to rule over the night. Further in later portions of the Bible it’s supposed to change color while the Sun darkens, if memory serves.
So there are two examples on the first page of he Bible being inaccurate.
I’m not sure if Reef Shark rejects all of modern science or not, so I’m not sure if he’s a YEC or not, but if he is, meteor impacts would be yet another tool to show conclusively that the earth is older than 6-10k years.
You referenced Hovind?
Wow.
Even other creationist organizations know to distance themselves from him. In fact it’s odd that you later quote from AiG since they disavow Hovinds silly ideas.
Um… If you believe the NT, then Jesus doesn’t come from David’s bloodline since both Matt and Luke draw from Joseph’s lineage (using different names of course)…,
Which is why you dismiss reason and evidence and why you haven’t bothered to actually read any scientific material, instead you get your info from Hovind…
Then what’s the point of even citing it? It has nothing whatsoever to do with accurate prophesies, as you claimed.
And you still haven’t refuted the first prophecy I mentioned.
The ‘some’ being referred to are Peter, James, and John, who witnessed the transfiguration. That event immediately follows this in Luke 9 and Mark 9 also.
2 Peter 1:16For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
Why exactly are you making this point? You asked for fossils near a meteor impact crater. You got them. What does limestone being young have anything to do with it?
I cannot refute an endtimes prophecy. I offered to post some other endtimes prophecies which you can compare to, or you can look them up yourself.
This was in reference to a global flood that would leave billions of fossils. My original point was that a globally catastrophic meteor impact would not leave fossils. However, that was an interesting cite, fwiw.
Again, why bother? You said that your book was full of accurate prophecies, with no inaccurate ones. And yet, you’ve been shown very inaccurate prophesies, and you’re talking about how the apocalyptic ones can’t be refuted. This means they aren’t accurate.
A global flood would be expected to leave billions of fossils at the lowest points in the terrain, and no where else. Everything would sink down, and would have to be covered by silt or rocks or whatever in order to even have a chance of becoming fossils. Anything that didn’t sink down wouldn’t become a fossil on a mountain, it would be fish food. A cursory glance at the fossil record would show that this is wrong.
How many other tired long disproved creationist talking points are we going to see? The only things Hovind is an expert at is tax evasion and making shit up. He has no evidence whatsoever, an easy indicator of a non-authority.
You are correct, my apologies. It is inferred that the flood caused radical changes to the earth:
2 Peter 3:6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished :
From the mention of the ‘fountains of the deep’, we know there was tectonic activity. The Himalayas, Alps, Rockies, Appalachians, Andes, etc all are composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of the aforementioned marine fossils. The Indian subcontinent collided with Asia, turning the huge amounts of sediment into mountains. This guy explains it better, and i can find more on the ‘hydroplate theory’ if you wish.
The fossils would be sorted based on their density and mass (hydrological sorting). Since the flood lasted over a year, there was plenty of time and tide changes for several layers.
No, you claimed endtimes prophecies were innaccurate. That assumption speaks for itself.
That was a citation of a meteor impact and crater, not a mountain. Regardless, the assumed rate of upward lift for mountains via tectonic shift is available to you, please correct me if that estimate was wrong. Here is some more info i just found:
Asteroid impacts
Interesting and complicated, thanks though.
‘Oligonucleotides are chemically synthesized using building blocks, protected phosphoramidites of natural or chemically modified nucleosides or, to a lesser extent, of non-nucleosidic compounds.’
-derived from Phosphoramidites
‘Phosphoramidites derived from protected nucleosides are referred to as nucleoside phosphoramidites and are widely used in chemical synthesis of DNA, RNA, and other nucleic acids and their analogs.’
-derived from Nucleosides
‘Nucleosides are glycosylamines consisting of a nucleobase (often referred to as simply base) bound to a ribose or deoxyribose sugar via a beta-glycosidic linkage. Examples of nucleosides include cytidine, uridine, adenosine, guanosine, thymidine and inosine.’
Putting this all together, it seems the oligonucleotide synthesis requires several building blocks, only some of which may be found naturally. I will need more time to look at this, thank you. See yall tomorrow hopefully.
A bigger problem is why you find no hominid fossils in the Cambrian strata. If there was a global flood, why aren’t all the fossils essentially jumbled up together?
Also since you didn’t respond to my last post, I’m assuming that this is a concession that the Bible isn’t inerrant and my criticisms have merit. I can now move onto the next batch of problems?
Or are you adamant that the moon generates its own light and plants can live in, essentially, the vacuum of space?
I did? You wanna point out where? I gave you a quote from Jesus, who said that all the stuff he was talking about would come to pass within a generation, and he was obviously wrong. This isn’t about end time, it’s about 2000 years ago.