Chuck Norris isn't all bad, he's for socialized medicine

It’s popular in some quarters to bash the Religious Right eight ways to Sunday. But I maintained for years that the Christian part of the Christian Right was the one part of the GOP that could save it.

I was looking this link that MEBuckner provided & among some amazingly bizarre statements, found this:

That’s the sort of thing that gives me hope. Out there in the cultural right, there are those who believe (however confusedly) in communitarian, Christic values rather than hyper-individualism. Let’s hope that flame is fanned, & the Chuck Norrises of the USA aren’t “educated” away from it by “wiser heads” in the Religious Right.

Of course, given the knee-jerk Libertarian bent of this board, most of you will take it as just more evidence of his idiocy.

Well, first of all, I think the whole article is intended to be his attempt at being a humorist.

Secondly, I had the impression that his tagging of Gates and Buffet to pick up the tab was intended to be read as punishing them for not being WND-acceptably doctrinaire in their economic and political outlooks.

So that’s really an anti-socialized medicine stance? As in, “If you want socialized medicine, you pay for it!”?

Maybe.

But it’s pretty much what I, as an advocate of tax-funded medical care, advocate.

Personally, I don’t think there’s a stance on socialized medicine there, at all, just a shout-out to a “topical” issue that is only coincidentally “socialized medicine.”

It’s formulaic “humor” from someone who has no real grasp of satire, directed at an audience that also has not demonstrated a real grasp of satire.

Is the OP serious?

If someone wants two (self-made) wealthy individuals to pay for everybody else’s healthcare, that raises your opinion of that person?

Somebody is not serious, either Chuck Norris or foolsguinea, or both.

If it was anyone else, I’d say the OP was trolling. But I think foolsguinea actually feels that way, knee-jerk anti-libertarian hate and all.

Chuck Norris stopped being funny when Chuck Norris got in on the act.

No kidding. Serious or not, anybody who truly feels that way is seriously delusional. Those two guys have contributed quite a bit to philanthropy.

Seeing as another one of his campaign promises is to do the following, I think we can safely say that Chuck Norris is trying to be funny.

This is whoosh, right?

Not really. Obviously, the board is very diverse, but I really thought a post like this would draw free-marketers like flies.

Unfortunately, Chuck Norris is so incoherent, no one can tell what he really thinks about socialized medicine, so no debate.

What makes you think we give any weight to his opinons? Are you incapable of distinguishing between a socially conservative, fiscally liberal authoritarian like Chuck Norris and a socially liberal, fiscally conservative libertarian?

No, I meant you would say what you just said. Chuck is Christian-Right & authoritarian, therefore to the Libertarians on this board, he’s just wrong down the line.

So while I as a social democrat see this as hope for the Christian Right (depending on what he really thinks), you lot will see it as more socialist-medieval antirational horror on the level of Cthulhu.

To be clear: it’s not that I think the USA should really write a writ of attainder on Buffet & Gates & make them fund social programs; it’s that I would like to see a tax (even a flat tax) for medical care as a common good, & this would mean that its fund would be as much funded by them as their incomes are part of the GDP (which is, what, 5% or something).

How do you calculate 5% or something?

Buffet and Gates income (~ 500 million?) would be less than 0.01% of GDP of 14 trillion dollars.

Even if you discard income and use an inflated figure such as their net worth (~ 120 billion?), it’s still less than 1%.

Anyways, it makes sense to me. It’s not enough to tax them more. Let’s also tax them on money they don’t even have.

Unless I miss my guess, I think friend FG was attempting what is known in some circles as a “joke” - a jape, a jest, a bit of tomfoolery. There are Shirley mathtards amongst us, and I stand in the front ranks of the afflicted, but I don’t see his name on our list.

I got that the OP was a joke but I thought the 5% in post #13 was actually a semi-serious statistic. My apologies for being so dense.

Nevermind

That and didn’t he say he planned on running on president of Texas if they secede?

LOL
Texas then will be able to say

“Oh yeah?!?!?!! Well my president can beat up your president”

But California is safe. We have a governator. That trumps everything :smiley:

I have no idea what Gates’s income is relative to the GDP. I was extrapolating wildly. It is, at least, orders of magnitude above 0.000 001%.