Circumcision, +or- ?

That’s what you get for reading the Economist. Try reading Moonshine instead. :slight_smile:
Peace,
mangeorge
ps- this post is just an excuse to try out my new sig.


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My .02

When it’s soft, it’s butt-stinkin’-ugly.

When it’s hard, you can barely tell the difference.

Which - circ or uncirc? My answer would have to be BOTH.

“The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian. It’s for gettin’ around. It’s like a jeep.”

INMO it doesn’t make much of a difference. My current is not, and no complaints.
Much more important than a little bit of skin is concentrating on some technique! :slight_smile:


Cave Canem. Beware the Dog.

All things being equal, I prefer cut to uncut. Although when performing oral sex on an uncut man, the extra foreskin does provide a little added something to play with. :wink:

“Although when performing oral sex on an uncut man, the extra foreskin does provide a little added something to play with.”
—MONTY2

Cancel my appointment, doctor.
Peace,
mangeorge


Work like you don’t need the money…
Love like you’ve never been hurt…
Dance like nobody’s watching! Source???

I’ve known three men that have had circumcisions as adults, and their reports back up Doctor Jackson’s anecdotal evidence that there is no noticeable reduction in “sensation” as a result.

As for your question, mangeorge, I’ll bet you’re wondering: Why did these men choose to undergo this unpleasant procedure as adults? The most important reason was the same for all three: aesthetics.

Speaking for myself, I find uncut penises to be extremely ugly, as did the partners or spouses of these three men. The fact that I’m cut is probably biasing my opinions on the matter, yet I think it would be fair to say that since the majority of American men are cut – from which it follows that the majority of women are familiar with cut men – the overall national “aesthetical bias” is clearly in favor of circumcision.

But if you’re uncut, don’t let the fact that you’re a little “different” interfere with your self-esteem or your sex life! There’s no need to “hide your lamp under a bushel”, so to speak. Just make certain that you keep yourself clean and be forewarned that your partner might have a bit of a hangup about it. If you’re still not comfortable, I’d seriously look into getting a “trim”.

Finally, I think Lawrence makes an excellent and important point. I too have read of studies confirming that uncircumcised men are at a significantly greater risk of contracting or at least transmitting HIV. I would think that this alone would strongly tip the scales in favor of routine infant circumcision as a matter of public health.

I’m Jewish. If I had a son, I would have him circumcised by a mohel, and a full bris milah service.

I have attended several brises, and since I was a candy striper who spent a year on Maternity, I have also seen a couple of hospital circumcisions.

The last two brises I was at, the baby didn’t even cry-- as for the anesthesia question, he is given a little wine-- very little, but with a baby, it doesn’t take much. Also, mohels do many more circumcisions than ob/gyns, so I assume they probably do them quicker and better.

At every bris I’ve been to, the baby is picked up immediately, and often given to the mother to nurse; also, he’s held by another human being during the actual cutting.

In the hospital-- geez, I’ll never forget this one time-- the doctor snipped the baby right in his bassinet, then LEFT HIM THERE-- screaming, incidentally. He just lay there crying, no one picked him up. The doctor looked over a chart, then told the nurse to wait five minutes, diaper him, and return him to the nursery. It was awful.

As far as men-- I’ve slept with Jewish men who were of course, circumcised, and two gentiles, one of each variety.

Over-all, I’d say that the Jewish men were better lovers, and not as much in a hurry, so I was more, well, lubricated, and we never had any problems.

Now, two men are not much of a sample, but I remember one guy-- and he was only ninteen, but he happened to be the snipped one-- was always so raring to go that we had to use additional lubricant. Notice I’m not seeing him anymore.

The other guy, uncut, I didn’t need lubricant with. He was a better lover, though, than the other goy, so maybe it was me. Again, that’s not much of a sample, but hey-- now that I’ve opened up the topic, so to speak, any more women want to contribute?


–Rowan
Shopping is still cheaper than therapy. --my Aunt Franny

“But if you’re uncut, don’t let the fact that you’re a little “different” interfere with your self-esteem or your sex life!”
—ambushed

-Damn, almost hit “cut” instead of “copy” :slight_smile:


Well, ambushed, I thank you for your well thought-out comments and your concern for my self-esteem.
But I’m 54, and just fine with my ego. Thanks in large part to the kind women who elected to not tell me of my “extremely ugly” penis.
As far as sensitivity? Well, I guess we’ll never really know, will we? Since no one who was cut at birth can know what it would be like to be otherwise, and vice-versa.
And how about disease? Do you know what the rhinovirus is? And where it attacks?
Hmmm. :slight_smile:
Peace,
mangeorge

Work like you don’t need the money…
Love like you’ve never been hurt…
Dance like nobody’s watching! Source???

Hey, ambushed;
I was only kidding, man.
Please please please,
DO NOT go chop off your nose. :slight_smile:
mangeorge

I’m LOL, mangeorge!

But all kidding aside, I doubt I’d lose as much sleep worrying about whom I might have infected with a cold as I would if I had an extra reason to wonder if I might have inadvertently killed someone…

And if a simple, safe and clearly benign minor surgical removal of a superfluous flap of skin could substantially reduce the probability of getting colds or flu and passing these on to others, I’m sure I’d encourage the procedure for everyone! Wouldn’t you?

As for your self-esteem, I’m sure you realize that I wasn’t suggesting you were in any way deficient in that area (though you did raise the question). I guess I was just trying to include the larger audience of future visitors and potential lurkers in my remarks.

But I still love your replies!

I guess I’ve never met a non-cut man. I’m not even sure what one would look like. But let me ask a question I’ve wondered since childhood: when my brother and I were little (he’s two years younger than me) my mom used to throw us in the bathtub together for bath time. Well, of course curiosity got the better of me one day and I asked him how he used that thing. So he showed me how he had to pull something back to pee. Does this mean he wasn’t circumcised? I was of course too young to know about circumcision then but when I got older I always wondered. I promise I’m not putting the teeming millions on, will someone resolve the mystery for me?

Uncut.
And if he pulled it back more than 3 times, he was playing with it. :slight_smile:
The voice of experience.
Peace,
mangeorge

Gracie, when they are uncut they look like little terrorists wearing roll-neck sweaters.


It only hurts when I laugh.

That’s it. I may be cut, but I’m calling mine “the little terrorist” from now on!

Ok, one more (kinda gross) question;
What if I, uncut, don’t keep it clean? Is this the source of the “head cheese” I’ve heard guys giggling about?
I’ve never been far from a shower for an extended period of time, so I really don’t know. And I’ve never had close contact with a “little terrorist” other than my own. I guess I’ve lived a pretty sheltered life. :slight_smile:
Peace,
mangeorge

>>Ok, one more (kinda gross) question; What if I, uncut, don’t keep it clean? Is this the source of the “head cheese” I’ve heard guys giggling about?<< --mangeorge

Umm, no. Actually, believe it or not, head cheese is even grosser than that.


–Rowan
Shopping is still cheaper than therapy. --my Aunt Franny

“Umm, no. Actually, believe it or not, head cheese is even grosser than that.”
—rowan

Just what, Gentle Reader, might that be? :slight_smile:
Peace,
mangeorge

OK, mangeorge, what are you doing Saturday night?

The head cheese issue is truly vile. It’s a sausage like thing made with blood and brains and all sorts of really disgusting things that my mother used to eat on an onion roll.

As for cut or un, I’ll take uncut any day of the week. Don’t ask me why, partly aesthetics, partly just seems sexier for some reason to me. You tell me. I just like it better, for any activity.

Well, I might as well throw my $0.02 in here, since this thread is still alive.

I’m uncut. I shower at least once a day and every time there’s a generous application of soap and water for my friend down here. I’ve never received any complaints about foul odor or taste from anyone I’ve been with, and most of the significant women in my life haven’t seen very manny (sic) uncircumcised penes. Not a one of them has ever found it odd or disgusting or too freakish to be touched. (That usually applies to the rest of me, including personality. ;)) They’ve all liked it as a little extra to play with during manual or oral manipulation.
The ‘head cheese’ I think you’re talking about, mangeorge, is technically called smegma and that’s what happens when you leave whatever sweat, dirt, old sperm, or what have you sitting around in the folds of your foreskin for long periods of time. Again, soap and water on a daily basis will prevent that.
Only sensitivity issue I’ve got has been mentioned before - sometimes the foreskin rolls back and the tip of my head rubs against my boxers. Major irritation!! :frowning:

The only way I’d consider getting snipped is the situation that Jess’ dad went through, and even then I’d get a second opinion. I like the little terrorist the way he is and my fiancee doesn’t have any complaints either. Basically I’d say I feel circumcision ought to be kind of a last resort - you and your doctors are pretty certain that whatever condition you’re experiencing can be stopped by this little bit of surgery. I don’t think it needs to be done as a preventative, especially when routine washing will take care of the major potential issues. Religious beliefs and traditions aside :slight_smile:


Cave Diem! Carpe Canem!