Exactly! Why not just eat the vegetables? They’d probably be less hungry.
Ask them what, exactly, they think is leaving their bodies when they “detoxify”.
Also, make them buy you more oranges.
While detox diets are largely quackery (whatever they do get right seems to be by coincidence rather than knowledge), there is a certain argument for minimizing dairy intake. Dairy tends to be high in fats, especially (with unprocessed dairy) saturated fats. It also has large amounts of nutrients normally found in fruits and vegetables, vastly more than is needed for an adult; understandibly, as the evolutionary purpose of dairy “product” is to provide sustenence for developing infants/small children. While dairy products are an option to obtain necessary nutrients and vitamins for people who live in environments where year-round availability of leafy green vegetables, the claims of the dairy industry regarding the health value of cow milk for adults (“builds stronger bones”, “prevents osteoporosis”) are overstated, often vastly so. And many adults become increasingly intolerant to dietary lactose in the quantities normally consumed in milk and dairy products.
That being said, they can take away my cheese when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Juicing concentrates the vitamins and other phytochemicals in vegetable matter, allowing you to consume more per overall bulk. That begs the question, however, of just how much of these nutrients you need, can utilize, or are actually healthy to consume in short order. In general, most nutrition biochemists suggest that consuming leafy greens and tubers in raw, steamed, or lightly roasted (and otherwise unprocessed) form is the way to get the maxiumum nutritional content, including the complex carbohydrates and fiber.
Stranger
Of course he is. He needs protein.
Actually, he probably needs fats; if they’re eating this stuff raw there is only a small amount of lipids in there, and some of those aren’t even readily digestable. In general, they’re probably not getting the calorie load they need, either. It’s surprisingly difficult to get enough calories for a sustainable diet out of just vegetables, without major sources of starch or protein (never mind the nutritional requriements for proteins and fats); you tend to get stuffed quickly, but the feeling only lasts as long as it takes for the roughage to clear your stomach.
Stranger
Thanks Stranger and everyone else. The funny thing is that they’re more like me than hippies (I hate hippies, too). They go out clubbing more than I, but don’t necessarily drink any more. But, they work out less than me. Last month, we were all sick (I being the sickest, I think it’s from hanging out in the hospital where my gf works). They want to prevent that from happening again.
The diet is suppose to clean out your colon and flush out all the harmful impurities that remain in your bowels, like mercury. My other roommate said some other things, but I tuned it out as I thought it was mainly useless. I was trying to tell them that nothing remains undigested. I heard the same claim last Sunday night in Chicago (where I was in on business) on 105.9 FM (it was a radio show that was really an infomercial, or what I call 1/2 hour advertisements).
Oh, and the vegetables and top round that we all ate last night had used about 1/4 cup of olive oil. That’s probably what was being craved. I know you’re not supposed to eat right before you go to bed, but can eating vegetables right before bed be all that bad?
If I were a betting man, I’d bet that you’ll catch them tucking into huge amounts of cheese or something like that fairly soon; these hyper-strict diets tend to rebound into serious binges.
Hell, just get them a box of Colon Blow and tell them to go to town.
:rolleyes:
Mercury doesn’t reside in the bowels. It is either absorbed into the blood stream via normal digestion processes (in the case of dietary mercury) and distributed to the liver, kidneys, nervous and endocrine system, as well as other regulatory organs where it resides and does progressive damage unless removed by heavy metal leaching salts (chelation therapy). The body doesn’t remove these products via its own processes, regardless of diet, which is why even trace levels of heavy toxic metals in water or food supplies is of such concern (although hazardous levels and methods of absorption are difficult to quantify). Starving yourself, or only eating vegetables, or flushing your colon, or whatever does absolutely nothing to remove toxic metals that have been absorbed into the body.
1/4 of olive oil for everyone (four people?) and 1 oz. of lean ground beef per person sounds like an inadequate amount of fat to me. Consuming too many carbs–even complex carbs–without corresponding levels of fat and protein will tend to spike blood sugar levels, making you “feel” hungry. They need to at least be adding some vegetable oils like flaxseed oil to their shakes. Man does not live on carbohydrates and dietetic flavonoids alone.
Stranger
Thanks for the info. I didn’t know about horses etc, I was assuming on what I’ve seen of dogs, cats, rats and a few others.
… or … ?
Well, if there was an iota of doubt about this being quackery, that settles it.
Your colon forms and passes on feces. It’s an ugly truth*, and hard to believe that poetesses and others who cultivate pure thoughts can contain such nasty stuff, but so it goes. Eat sufficient fiber as part of a balanced diet, and it shall all pass.
Really, any time you hear the words “cleanse” and “detoxify” in relation to diet, enemas and supplements, quackery is involved. In addition to eating a balanced diet, exercising and avoiding drugs (pharmaceutical, herbal etc.) and supplements are healthy things to do.
The infomercials are blatant sources of garbage. Change the channel to detoxify your radio. 
*It’s not just your colon. It’s everybody’s colon (shudder).
Then buy them some soap and a towel. Hand-washing is proven to prevent illnesses. Tell them to be sure to get enough rest and, if they aren’t eating right, to take a daily multivitamin. And, when there’s viruses going around, stay out of crowds where they’ll encounter people carrying viruses. All of which are a hell of a lot easier than trying to starve on a bogus diet.
I just went to that website, and I ordered a t-shirt for a friend of mine in the Minnesota Veterans Home.
It has the Colonblow logo on the front and Poopin is cool on the back. I’m sure that his fellow residents will agree.
Sorry, I didn’t complete that thought, did I. Mercury and other heavy metals will either be absorbed by digestion processes, or excreted along with fecal matter. In fact, most unbound elemental sources of dietary heavy metals will pass completely through the system with virtually no absoption; you can actually drink liquid mercury without significant health effects, aside from the little that you’ll absorb as it sublimates. Mercury bound in other dietary compounds (specifically, the saturated fats found in dark flesh fish like salmon and tuna) is, on the other hand, arguably a significant hazard (and cumulative over time due to the previously mentioned lack of mechanism for scouring heavy metals), and mercury vapor is extremely hazardous even at small concentrations.
Stranger
It’s probably not for lack of trying. There are many things that set man apart from our fellow mammals, but the lack of self butt licking isn’t one of them.
Actually I can vouch for Colonblow, as I bought a 3-pack out of curiosity. If you follow the Aggressive scenario on the When page, they will very likely see poops like the crazy ones shown on that site. Hard to believe, but it’s true!
However, I will note that it only delivered like that my first time. Since then I’ve been taking psyllium seed husks and powder (the main component of Colonblow), and I’ve not had results like that.
If the roommates aren’t seeing results, buy them a pack of Colonblow. They’ll be amazed.
I’m not sure (and probably don’t want to know) what you’re vouching for, but as a general observation:
Some of the “cleansing”/laxative products contain ingredients that can agglomerate and look weird when passed in stool. An example is bentonite. Customers think they are clearing out horrible stuff from their colons when it’s just the crap in the “cleanser”.
You dudes do know that Colonblow is just a fake product from a fake SNL ad, right? 
But adding more fiber and some probiotics to the avergae American’s diet cetainly won’t hurt.
Here’s my cheap store bought “cleansing diet”:
Breakfast: Activa ™ or similar yogurt, serving of high fiber (low fat) cereal with non-fat milk (or soy milk). ( Kashi Golean crunch is one, and even Frosted Mini-wheats.)
Lunch: Large mixed green salad. Easy on the dressing. Ok to have some cheese, but don’t get carried away. No croutons.
Dinner: a large bowl of the same cereal.
Before bed snack: another serving of Activa.
Make sure you drink plenty of juice, water or tea.
This will clean you out naturally and help to lose a pound or two. Don’t do it more than one or two days a week, unless you have talked to your Doctor. If you have any health problems or weird food allergies, also consult your MD. (never start any diet before consulting your MD)
Or, just get a jar of Probiotic pills and take a full serving of the “bulk forming laxative” fiber powder with a* full* glass of water. 
Cook up some Bacon and eggs when they are all around.
ask any fallen vegitarian…bacon is one of the most often cited causes for going off a vegitarian diet.
Ah, bacon. The candy of meats!
My old vegetarian roommate hated the smell of meat cooking. Except bacon. She would always come sniffing around when we had bacon! She never ate it, but she did like to smell it.