Yep, she pissed off the Republican Mud Machine. 25 YEARS of allegations and investigations, and all they’ve been able to come up with is a mistake with an email server, and no charges whatsoever in that entire time.
Cite that Clinton did anything unethical here rather than run-of-the-mill networking?
One thing I never see come up in these discussions is the role of hope and fear. If you have business with the State Department, and you want to have a meeting with the Secretary, you’ll do anything you can to get that meeting, and to solicit a positive outcome. If that Secretary’s family is running a charity, and she has been actively involved in it and will be again, then you’ll donate to that charity. It doesn’t matter whether any quid pro quo has been suggested, or whether anyone has ever gotten a meeting by donating; you will give to that charity because you dare not do otherwise. If you don’t give, you have not done everything you can, and so have failed to do your duty.
So, of course a lot of the people Clinton’s met donated to the Foundation – what have they got to lose?
Well, no - Clinton had over 1700 meetings as SoS. I mean, let’s be honest - having meetings is 99% of the SoS’s job. The AP article that started all this only looked at 154 of those 1700 meetings. That’s about 10%-ish.
They found that of the 154 meetings they considered, only 85 of them were donors to the Clinton Foundation. That works out to less than 5% of the people who met with her contributed to the Foundation.
It’s really not a lot, when you consider that she managed all those meetings throughout her term in office. It doesn’t bear out the idea that many of the people who met with her felt that they needed to donate to get her attention.
And any way, there’s no reason to think that all 85 of the donors were desperate with fear. I would bet that some of them were just professional philanthropists donating to be polite or in hopes that the Clintons would reciprocate. That’s how these Foundations stay in business. It’s probably why Donald Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Clintons had donated to Trump’s foundation, just like they went to his wedding. (I don’t know if they did or didn’t, I was just speaking hypothetically.)
My plea would be to stop with the half-baked OPs that are SO FULL OF OUTRAGE and so short on substance.
All we hear is, “WOLF! WOLF! WOLF!”
"No, this time I mean it. Really a WOLF! "
How is it not self evident that in a world where the opponent is proudly and openly racist, mysoginist, xenophobic and islamaphobic, and clearly doesn’t fully understand either the constitution or how government actually functions, and has exactly zero experience, that no one cares whom she met with. Or who donated money to a charity fighting AIDS and helping Africa!
I’m wondering how this works…
“Gee Bill, I’d love to meet with you about the Gates Foundation’s efforts to eradicate polio. I know we are really close, and yes, there are some doors that the State Department could open, but I can’t talk to you about this because you gave some money to the Clinton Foundation for their malaria efforts. Eradicating polio and fighting malaria are much less important that having the appearance of impropriety, who cares if third world children die, as long as the AP won’t have a story.”
Hilarious.
I can bench press 2000 pounds, this was the number that was written on the two balloons tied to a stick I lifted. That is the number I defined used to define what I lifted. What to argue that it isn’t right thats for another thread. That has nothing to do with the discussion that I’m the strongest man in the world.
Now that the IRS has made their decision regarding Bondi, news is they are looking into the same transactional pattern involving then-attorney general, now Texas Governor, Greg Abbott.
More to follow, I’m sure.
Sure came down hard on Trump! $2,500, a ten percent surcharge on the bribe! They’ll think twice before they do that again! Still do it, of course, but they will definitely think twice!
IRS levies fines based on the amount of taxes owed, so that’s what they did.
It now seems to be factual that Trump paid fines he or his businesses had incurred out of his ‘Foundation’ money, and, at least once, had his ‘Foundation’ buy things from his businesses. Both matters are completely illegal and unethical.
But Clinton has a foundation too. So they both do it.
:rolleyes:
It seems that Tinyfingers Klepto has been caught using his “charitable foundation” as a personal slush fund yet again:
The golf case is particularly sad in its petty Trumpery – the plaintiff had apparently won a $1 million prize for a hole-in-one, only to be told that the rules required the hole to be at least 150 yards, which was – surprise, surprise! – a bit longer than the actual distance from tee to hole.
Yes but Trump never made decisions as Sec’y of State based on who contributed to his foundation so there’s that. 
There’s no evidence Hillary did either.
I think golf tournaments that have that “million dollars for a hole in one” thing usually take out an insurance policy for it. So it might be straight up weaselly, they didn’t take out the insurance and added a rule later. But I think it’s more likely that they did take out the insurance and failed to notice/implement that fine print. So then the insurance company refused to pay up and the tournament was suddenly on the hook so they try to pass along the insurance clause as a contest rule. Not defending it but the payout was probably an expense honestly not factored in.
I never said she did - but I can guaranty Donald “Soon to be President” Trump did not participate in any State Department corruption.