Damn Bill Clinton! I got stuck in traffic today because this jackass is coming to Boston! He sure is running up the travel bills in his last few weeks! What really pisses me off is how this smarmy, slimey excuse for a president just WON’T GO AWAY! he is like gum on your shoe-you can’t get rid of him. I can’t stomach the thought of having to see him on the late show, or on the lecture circuit! Ugh!
He won’t go away because he is still your president. Show a little respect.
Yeah. I for one can’t wait for the rich to get richer and the environment to go to shit. Fuck poverty! Fuck the trees! Who needs 'em anyway?
And enough of this world peace shit. And education? Aww, they’re just kids, why are we wasting so much time on them?
I’d rather have blow than a Blow Job in the White House any day.
And when everybody’s favorite intellectually-challenged daddy’s boy comes to Boston are you going to wait patiently in your car for his motorcade to pass?
Is it just me or are republicans starting to sound like Mac users? “Damn Microsoft, it fucks everything up!” “Macs are better than PCs despite the better availability of software, the affordability, the fact that graphic capability is nearly equal…”
Esprix, let me apologize for taking your title, but the right-wingers have taken the one-trick pony award away. When the guy’s got 9 days left in office and they’re still bringing up a hummer, you know they don’t have anything solid to go on. Come on, give me one, just one, policy that’s been a failure (and don’t even fuck with health-care reform, because y’all are the ones who scuttled it from one side of your mouths while pissing and moaning about HMOs from the other). Really, what’s he fucked up while being president–not counting BJs from a semi-homely adult–the economy? No. Foreign policy? Well, we haven’t been in anything near Iraq in the last 8 years, nor have as many soldiers been killed. Domestic policy? In all its aspects we seem to be better off.
Haven’t you republicans had enough humiliation trying to pass off a blowjob as a billion-dollar offense? Hasn’t Starr embarassed you enough by wasting all that time and money and coming up with nothing more than a guy trying to hide an affair?
Get a fucking life and back off. The more you BJ hating assholes spout your holier-than-thou verbiage, the more likely it is that the democrats are going to start playing the same game you have. Do you really want an independent counsel looking into GW’s stock sales? Do you really want one looking into influence peddling with the baseball team? Do you want that? Then shut the fuck up. We’ll play nice (even though you haven’t) if you’ll shut the fuck up. Otherwise, W’s past is fair game, just as the President’s (and he is still the President) was, as was his wife’s. Ya wanna play dirty, as you have for the last 8 years, you’re gonna get dirty.
Asshole.
I myself can’t wait until Bill becomes the ex-President. It’ll be great! Showing up on all the talk shows (he’ll tear Leno into tiny little pieces), appearing in self-parodying movie cameos, showing up uninvited at international hot spots, stealing the spotlights from poor little Dubya… perhaps he’ll even divorce Hillary and start dating a string of 19-year-old movie starlets. Who’s gonna stop him? The man’s a national icon.
You are probably right, but it’s just plain scary. Stop spookin’ me.
Careful, Unc…you don’t want to get a reputation as being anti-blow job. Could have a negative impact on future dates.*
Stofsky: Yeah, right. Like Dubya is going to come anywhere NEAR Boston (or San Francisco, or New York, or any other hotbed of pointy-headed liberals and homersexuals and abortion-havers and Nigras and intellectuals) during the next four years.
- (This is a RIOT! Did this just start here or is it a trend I’ve somehow missed?
“You don’t like Clinton? Well, I guess you’re just SOMEHOW OPPOSED TO ORAL SEX, is that it?”)
I’ve got little use for Clinton, but he doesn’t keep me up at night. And I do find amusement from Democrats who make him out to be some American hero.
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Very good. Now if you can name, oh, say, ONE foreign policy accomplishment in Clinton’s eight years in office, I’d be interested in hearing about it.
(To help you out, I’m not really interested in what he tried and/or intended to do; I’m interested in what he did.)
Milo: Do you count the perception of President Clinton among the leaders of other nations achieved by his efforts as an accomplishment? See, the way others view the actions and efforts of the president of the United States has a lot to do with the way they view the citizenry of the United States. In this respect, I think our president has accomplished a great deal in terms of rectifying much of the damage done by his two most recent predecessors.
Hey, Milo, chill out, buddy; whassa matter, you don’t like blow jobs or something?
{chortle}
Man, this is great! Everybody’s gonna get a lot sicker of me a lot faster from now on, let me tell you!
Not counting the fact that we no longer perform searches of potential Iraqi arms manufacuring facilities which could potentially be prducing weapons of mass destruction.
The virtual destruction of two US Embassies as well as a brand new multi-billion dollar destroyer was yet to result in significant action against the suspected organizer of these attacks, Osama bin Laden beyond an ineffective cruise missle attack and the destruction of an apparently unrelated Kenyan Pharmecuticals factory.
The relative failure of the Kosovo campaign that resulted in losses of less than 15% of any of particular branch (armor, aircraft, soldiers, manufacturing infrastructure) of the Serbian military and a token NATO-Serbian agreement that explicitly states that Kosovo has gained neither significant self rule or independence, as well as the deaths of approximately eight service men involved in the Kosovo conflict, and the first destruction of a stealth aircraft operated my ANY world government.
A lack of successful intervention in African genocides magnitudes greater than any Balkan events.
Somalia.
A lack of permanent peace treaties in North Ireland, Israel, Indonisa, and the Indian Sub-Continent.
Other than that and a few other cases that I am sure I have failed to mention, yeah, Clinton kicked foreign policy ass.
Fortunately, that’s been the general trend since the end of the paleolithic era.
No disagreement there
Before we continue, I’d just like to note that George Bush Sr. sent us into Somalia, before he left office.
Carry on.
And bin Laden is a leader of what country? Oh, gee, we have trouble with guerrillas and terrorists? Tell Nixon. And the only reason you know about the aspirin factory is that Clinton believes in the 1st Amend., unlike Sr. who kept the press anywhere but near the friendly-fire fiascos in the Gulf War. Oh, and to mention the Holy of Holies for right-wingers, how many embassies and soldiers were destroyed under Ronnie?
Though Milosovech (sp?) is hunted for war crimes? Only 8? How many died in Grenada, how many died fucking around with Noriega? And, gee, since stealth aircraft are new, I don’t think that counts as a debatable point. Or, if you like, we can discuss the Russian capture of Gary Whoever that was flying the recon plane in the 50s. If you’d like to debate this point, I’ll look up all the appropriate references.
Considering where any of those were before? Better. Somalia? I’m sorry, maybe it’s my Alzheimer’s disease, but in my recollection it was Daddy Bush who put troops there just before he left office. No, now that I check, I’m right. And since when is it the job of the POTUS to create world peace? I think that Clinton has done a good job of facilitating it, but you can’t put it on his shoulders that pissants can’t compromise (as you’re truly proving).
Fortunately, that’s been the general trend since the end of the paleolithic era.**
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Except for the Nixon era, when gas lines were the worst, or the depression, or, well, hell, get out your history book.
stofsky:
Congratulations. That was the lamest fucking defense of Clinton’s foreign policy achievements that I’ve ever seen.
Loved the part where you responded to our bombing of an aspirin factory, damaging the industry of an already extremely poor nation, essentially an act of undeclared war, which did nothing to get/stop bin Ladin.
BTW, the worst tragedy of our action in Kosovo wasn’t the loss of servicemen (although that is, indeed, tragic). We sped up and intensified the atrocities and suffering of hundreds of thousands of people we were supposed to be helping.
And pin Somalia and Iraqi sanctions on Bush the Elder if you want to be disingenuous. It was under Clinton’s watch that Somalia went to shit. It was under Clinton’s watch that Somalia went from a relief mission supplying food and medicine to, “Let’s have vastly underfortified troops tool around the street and hunt down the local warlords.” It was under Clinton’s watch that Iraqi sanctions were proven to do nothing but cause the suffering of innocent civilians.
Albright was warned well in advance that there were security problems at the embassies where many were later killed in terrorist bombings. She (i.e., Clinton) chose to do nothing.
Used to be that when we talked, other countries listened. Doesn’t seem to be the case in Israel, Ireland, India-Pakistan, Korea or pretty much anywhere else anymore. Would that have been the case, regardless of who was leading America? Can’t say.
You’re the one congratulating Clinton on his accomplishments, however. Not me.
(And I didn’t even mention our selling of aerospace technology to China that’s now used to help guide long-range missiles that are pointed at us; which oddly occurred after Clinton-Gore received a campaign donation traced to a general in the Chinese military, and the company that sold the technology was one of Clinton-Gore’s biggest campaign contributors.
Nor did I mention the horrifying breaches of national security that have occurred over the last eight years.)
I show so much restraint, post-election.
He had a major influence in Irish politics. He was heavily involved in the sealing of the Good Friday Agreement. He and his envoy George Mitchell have done a lot for this Island and it’s people.
He is very popular over here because of his efforts for peace.
How’s that peace agreement holding up, yoj?
Points for trying only go so far. He’s been in D.C. for a decade. Where are the done-deal accomplishments that will stand the test of time?
And Uke? I think there is bipartisan support for blow jobs. 
There’s still peace. The IRA and loyalists have held their seize-fire. The terrorist prisoners have been let out of jail ( at least one Johnny Adair(loyalist) was locked up again because of causing trouble when they where released).
The North is close to full devolution from the UK. Border crossings barracks are being dismantled. Troops are leaving the island instead of arriving. The Maze prison (The H block is being dismantled)
There are still extremists who will not stop the old shit eg. The continuity IRA who are still at war. But these bastards are in a huge minority.
Both Loyalists and Nationalists are still at loggerheads over a lot of issues but their distrust runs very deep and it’s going to take years maybe decades before these feelings will start to subside.
All in all it’s still very hopeful. Most importantly of all it’s politicians making the news now and not gunmen.
Unfortunately, I went to college with 1,000s of embryonic Clintons who never met a foreign policy intervention they didn’t like. Don’t worry, I’ll warn you when they hatching and begin to run for national office.
P.S. Whenever we make a bombing raid on supposed weapons facilities does it always turn out to be a) an aspiring factory b) a baby formula plant or c) a manufacturer of prosthetic limbs? Dear god, the irony.
I should add that the whole political side is now waiting for IRA decommisioning of their weapons. This hasn’t happened yet.
It still may all fall down but we are closer to peace than we have ever been before. Clinton and Mitchell had a lot to do with this.
that’s aspirin, of course, although “aspiring” wouldn’t be exactly an incorrect descriptor.