Closing threads

Yes, it was that one. I count 4 posters posting yesterday, plus me the day before, so perhaps you were simply mistaken?

I agree with BigT that sometimes closing a thread is the best option, but I feel like we’ve seen the trigger pulled way too quickly recently. I’m not sure if anything in that thread really needed moderating, and I certainly don’t think @damuriajashi should be barred from a thread he started, especially with no warning.

I don’t think the debate was mega productive, but if the idea is to encourage productive debate, closing threads kind of ends any chance of that. I’d prefer less drastic measures.

You know, that thread keeps getting flagged. Always the same two posters being flagged. When I looked at it yesterday, I only saw those two posters.

Not sure how I missed the others. With apologies, I will reopen it after modnoting.

Thanks. Now maybe I can find out what @BigT wanted to say. :slight_smile:

Thanks for being considerate, @What_Exit. Reevaluating a decision based on new information is a good trait.

I wonder if this isn’t what leads to the impression of biased moderation. The non-woke posts just generate more flags than non-woke posts because of the imbalance of posters on this site. So moderators ding the non-woke posts more frequently even though in the context of the thread there is no real difference.

I don’t think its possible for moderators to skim through a thousand threads with hundreds of posts but if we are more liberal about issuing “simmer down now” moderation, then perhaps doing that more often will keep things from escalating when someone gets a little butthurt about some other poster’s tone. Doing so before the butthurt gets too bad would also reduce the additional butthurt that comes from moderation.

Unpopular positions get dogpiled. Not simply with a ton of opposition arguments but with a mountain of veiled insults. This often leads to escalation.

I think there is a cottage industry among some elements of this board in making veiled insults and provoking emotional responses from others. Not necessarily trolling but provocation. When you moderate someone, do you look to see if they had been provoked?

Still on about the supposed


@damuriajashi Attacking people as getting butthurt is not a good look. It does make it seem like you are angry at them and are trying to piss them off.

It is a common tactic when debating to use tone to try and anger the other side so that they either make mistakes or fall afoul of rules. There is this whole technique of escalating in this manner.

No one was butthurt. People were arguing in the same tone you were using. And neither was appropriate.

Pfft. You need to read the thread.

Uh. Are you saying that there is no woke echo chamber in existence?

The present-day use of “woke” is a far cry from its origin in Abe Lincoln’s presidential campaign. You’re using “woke echo chamber” like octopus uses “hive mind”.

Is it an actual thing or does it merely exist in my imagination?

I’m no mind reader. I wouldn’t want to read yours, anyway.

It is not an actual thing.

But let’s avoid taking pokes at other posters in this forum.

People don’t generally say “butthurt” about themselves. It’s a childish insult used whenever the other person is an asshole, and they want to pretend that it’s the person getting upset who is the bad guy. Why would I have any reason to assume you were talking about yourself?

I already mentioned that went through a bunch of posts in that thread. You were egging on the other poster as much as they were egging you on. They were getting upset at you as much as you were at them.

So either both of you deserved moderation, or neither of you did.

My chamber doesn’t echo due to sound dampening, but it sure traps the farts in. I should get an exhaust fan.

Do you also think there is no conservative right wing hive mind or are the right wingers all brain washed sheeple while left wingers are all independent thinkers?


As a more serious answer, I don’t think that there is any universal generality about any large political category.

When you use “hive mind” here, it just means you have already lost any argument.

I could not agree more.

I often have to remind myself, in certain threads on a small number of topics, that there are several posters (a very small, but not zero) number of posters who will jump in and contribute nothing but intentionally provocative posts. And I remind myself that I shouldn’t fall for it and respond.

I guess it’s not actually trolling, but it’s pretty borderline.