A lot of people would learn from an experience like this.
You probably won’t.
Gee Wally that’s harsh! Of course I hadn’t counted up how many others had admitted a mistake around here, maybe I’m way behind in the count?
So, get a photovoltaic system for your home and it’ll be fusion powered. Problem solved!
I agree, it’s a bit harsh. But you started a hopeless pit thread and then didn’t respect local tradition enough to hunker down and claim you were misunderstood, misrepresented and that anyone reasonable would have understood and agreed with what you really meant by the OP. At least you still have the opportunity to respect local tradition by living up to Bryan’s pessimistic prediction and start a similiar thread tomorrow or the day after. Tip: this time include lots of links to biased as hell sources that agree with your ill conceived notion.
Or just do that here, I’m sure you can find someone who’s calculated that coal rolling is more environmentally friendly than driving a prius, because [insert cherry picked factors here]
There’s where I keep the spare fuel. I used to keep it the other way around, but that doesn’t make sense. Then all the smoke from the generator gets in the way of my mirror and the dripping fuel from the spare tank gets on the window. Switch them and the drips land on the concrete and the smoke goes up in the air. Makes so much more sense.
It’s also way better than when I kept it in the backseat, that didn’t work at all, it was like having grandma back there with her Pall Malls.
My gas powered car is fusion powered too, but instead of a photovoltaic system and an electric vehicle I have a hydrocarbon producing biosphere and an ICE vehicle.
Make no mistake, I don’t like coal rolling morons! I could care less if you own a Prius or not until you have to dispose of the batteries,
I had hoped to see who and why any would defend either side , I did a poor job in both respects, I admit that, it was obviously to stupid from the very beginning , had I stated electric cars, it might have been better but the Prius repellant signs in the back windows of these trucks sidetracked me!
What’s there to defend with Prius owners? People see a car, like it, buy it, and drive it around minding their own business. What about that is in need of defending?
The fact that some sensitive little snowflakes take a stranger’s choice of car as a personal affront isn’t the Prius owners’ fault. Coal rolling is like deciding to squat down and take a crap on the sidewalk whenever you see someone wearing Dockers.
The corresponding piece of clothing to Priuses is either Ed Hardy shirts or Crocs. Please don’t make the same mistake again.
Kudos for admitting a mistake. But, this being the pit, don’t be too surprised if you don’t get much sympathy. Live and learn! 
I have a Prius (I’m on my third one) and have heard about this ‘coal rolling’ trend. I think it’s only a small handful of people who are doing that somewhere in the US.
I don’t really understand what the ‘coal rollers’ issue is- They hate the environment? The like waste and dirt? They have extra money to waste on gas and car modifications? They are just being provocative?
As far as I know, there is no issue with Prius battery. I don’t recall reading that they are particularly environmentally unfriendly to manufacture, use, or recycle. The hybrid batteries are large by battery standards and take up all the space under or just behind the rear seat. If they battery loses a cell, it can be replaced, although I have never met someone that had to do this.
There was some talk about them being expensive to replace- maybe as much as $5,000. They are warrantied for 10 years or 100,000 miles. It appears now that the batteries are quite reliable and there are enough extra ones floating around due to wrecks that one could buy a used replacement for as little as $500.00.
I have several friends who also own a Prius and only one has had to replace the battery. She actually left her car on, just running quietly in her driveway, for a day or two and it damaged the battery enough that it would not recharge. The dealer replaced it for no charge, but I think there was more to her story because the car should have recharge itself in that state. She may have also run it completely out of gas which left the hybrid batter alone to do all the work.
The car I have now, a 2102 Gen 4, has lots of really cool features. I have a solar panel that boosts my AC, a sunroof, synthetic ‘leather’ seats and lots of technology such as GPS/maps (It updates itself and can divert me around traffic jams and road construction if I ask it to do that. It can also give me different modes of travel- fastest, most economical, most ecological), Bing, Pandora, Bluetooth, hands-free phone, local stores, points of interest or gas stations, gas prices at the stations etc., - a bunch of apps. I was surprised at how many of my neighbors run businesses out of their homes- this shows up on the maps if I want it to. The GPS updates all the time and modifies my time-to-destination constantly, so if I do get stuck in traffic or heavy rain or whatnot, I still get an accurate prediction of how long it will be until I reach my destination. I also have convenience features like auto defrost/heated rearview mirrors, and can set the AC to adjust the cabin automatically so I never mess with the AC. Local and satellite radio. My kids can play their music from their phones through the car’s stereo system. The car also cools itself on a hot day while I’m in the store or at work- sometimes that freaks me out becase I come out to the car and it’s doing stuff- LOL! It’s also keyless so these days, I get annoyed if I have to go find my keys for anything.
I can drive in regular car mode, electric vehicle mode (although it does not go fast or far in EV only mode), or Ecoboost mode, which changes the way the accelerator pedal relates to the engine giving me better gas mileage. I have several different ways to watch the car as it functions. I can see how I’ve done instantly, over 5 minutes,over 30 minutes or over the last 6 months. I also have a couple of vies that allow me to monitor the car’s function in real time.
I love to drive the car different ways to tweak my mileage. It’s just a game I like to play with myself. I’ve gotten 60 MPG on many occasions. I got 57.4 MPG just last night driving home from work and not driving any particular way or using hypermiling techniques. It may be that I have used the cars information to relearn to drive using hypermiling techniques all the time now.
I drive my old Ford truck the same way. For instance, there is no real need to use the gas pedal when on a good downhill slope.
Ultimately, this is a near luxury car (I think- it’s certainly the nicest car I’ve ever owned). I drive a lot and buy about 9 gallons of gas about every 3 weeks. I don’t care what gas costs, which is really what energy independence is all about. The tank (which I think is actually a bladder) also recalculates itself all the time and tells me how many miles I have left to use before refilling. If I hot-dog the car, I get less, if I hypermile or ecoboost on the highway, I get more, but the car does all that work for me.
Finally, I totaled one in December in a pretty spectacular T-bone collision on the highway when another driver lost control of her car and started bouncing around and off things (including me) on the highway. I had to be pried out of the car and walked away unscathed except for some airbag bruising and strains to my feet and hands from the death grip I had on the car. That was totally awesome. I also ran one out of gas and used hills and battery to get to a gas station. That was cool.
A Prius can also be used as a generator to power a home (not everything) during a power outage. It will run and then recharge itself for as long as a week on one tank of gas (about 9 gallons) and be quieter and less polluting than a standard generator.
What is coal rolling?
This is my question too. Maybe an all electric, since it’s charged by coal?
Congratulations on your first Pit thread, you ignorant slut. Next time, do a little research - and then think a little - before you open your big stupid slut-mouth.
Even supposing that Prius batteries are “very toxic” - which they aren’t - they are collected at the end of their service life and reprocessed/recycled. Contrast this with coal rollers, who spew their most-definitely-toxic shit on everyone and everything.
And then there’s the idea of Priuses being coal-powered, which is true for only a tiny fraction of them; the rest don’t plug into a goddam thing. But let’s suppose that we are talking about plug-in hybrids, or pure electrics. Now imagine two scenarios:
A) Los Angeles is filled with tens of thousands of coal-rollers, each of which spews large amounts of toxic exhaust into the air at ground level on city streets.
B) Los Angeles is filled with tens of thousands of plug-in hybrids and pure-electrics, each of which spews toxic exhaust by proxy from a coal-fired power plant 75 miles out in the countryside through a smokestack 500 feet high that uses electrostatic precipitators and other emissions control technology to minimize particulate emissions. The plant’s location, chimney and operating parameters assure that its exhaust has an opportunity to disperse thoroughly before it reaches ground level in populated areas. When each vehicle reaches the end of its service life, its not-very-toxic battery gets recycled.
If you enjoy seeing a nice layer of greasy soot on every surface in your city - along with elevated rates of cancer, asthma, cardiovascular disease, and other health conditions - by all means, choose scenario A. That’s pretty much what Los Angeles was like 50 years ago, and it’s what Beijing is like these days. I suspect most people, forced to choose between those two options, would opt for scenario B.
Fighting back against coal rollers: Rollin’ Color
Most Prii (they actually voted on the plural of ‘Prius’ and went with Prii) use regenerative breaking and hybrid technology to create fuel efficiency and a 90% emissionless ride. There are plug in Prii, but most are not plug ins.
I think the ‘coal rollers’ are just assholes, but if they want to send all their fine American dollars to Saudi Arabia so some Prince can buy yet another solid gold toilet, that’s their right.
I can’t Wait for that new Mr. Fusion! Light enough and compact enough to put in the back seat, so no more nasty explosions from rear-end collisions.
That, and no chance it will fly off the roof like a cross between a Canadian suitcase and a Russian warhead. (sorry, tail-gaters!)
That little sucker will power all of your energy needs PLUS double as an ashtray for the Pall Malls. It will pay for itself in energy savings alone given time, but if Grandma croaks?
Cha-Ching!
(I saw on TV where the price of the average funeral has gone up 500% in Just the last 5 years…)
“Tim, where’s my mother…?”
"Oh… she took me to work today. … and Tomorrow too… "
“No, really where is she?”
“Don’t worry! I’m sure she’s off somewhere smoking…”
Oh, and you should hear the cool sound that car makes when its installed too…
“WHOOOOOOOOOOSH…!!!”
What are “coal rollers”? Are there coal-powered cars?