Cold case: Woman steps out of her car, and onto a skull

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That happened in 2004. It seems the case is being looked at again.

Forensic analysis shows the bones belonged to a man, five feet and one inch tall, between 35 and 55 years old. He had been wearing bellbottom trousers popular in the '70s, and a Members Only jacket from the '80s. Checking with the factory in Sri Lanka, investigators found that it was made in 1982. (They’re disregarding this datum, since it’s possible company records are wrong.) The ME believes the man to have been Caucasian, though an ‘afro pick’ was found with the remains. A promotional money clip from Paragon Oil was found, and the mad had been wearing a Bulova watch that was made in 1960.

The SO likes the ID channel, and she’s got me a little hooked. Maybe that’s why I find this story interesting.

What a sweet jacket!

What a wild combo of items. I was thinking maybe he liked to buy clothing from thrift stores and just happened to have that odd combo on. I agree they’re probably wisest focusing on his height as a promotional point, rather than trying to tell people what year they think he disappeared.

Hm. I hadn’t considered the thrift store angle. Considering it now, in my pre-caffeine state, this is what comes to mind: I don’t shop at thrift stores; but I often lunched with a coworker who did, and would stop into one or another thrift store fairly often on the way back to the office. I can’t say I’ve ever seen bellbottoms or Members Only jackets in one. This could mean that there’s a difference in thrift stores between New Jersey and Southern California, that the ensemble was put together over time after searching thrift stores for the items, that it was a Halloween costume, or that he didn’t get the clothes at a thrift store and they were the fashion at the time of the murder. If he was killed this century or near to it, he would have been a bit of a character dressing like that. One thing though: The afro-pick. I haven’t seen anyone use one since the early-1980s. I can buy someone buying vintage clothing (even bellbottoms) in the 1990s. But a hair style that needs an afro-pick? I’m not seeing that unless the murder took place in 1982 – and afros were a bit our of fashion even then. (I had a teacher in 1974 who put his blonde locks in an afro.) Of course, the comb could have been dropped by the murderer.

The Bulova watch would be a little unusual for a thrift store shopper, since it cost $500 new in 1960 and was a bit of a collector’s item by the time of the murder. A person who had that watch probably didn’t have to shop in thrift shops. The watch might be an important clue. (Or not, since they’ve had it since 2004.) Citizen bought Bulova in 2008, so records may no longer exist; but they might. It might be possible to find out who originally bought the watch. If the murder happened in 1982 and the victim was 55 years old, he may have bought it new in his early-30s. If he’d inherited the watch from his father, that would put him closer to 35 years old. A record of the purchase by his father would be a good clue to who the victim was. But are such records kept? I bought my GMT II new. Rolex would have a record of who the distributor they sold it to, and the distributor would have a record of they store they sold it to. The store obviously has a record of selling it to me, since I keep getting their ad mail. I wanted a vintage Sub, so that would be harder to trace through the purchase; but it’s been sent to Rolex for servicing, so that should make it easy. Rolex seems to keep track of the watches they make. I wonder if Bulova does/did?

Here’s the thing about a vintage watch: Given a population of watch-wearers, they’re not going to be especially common. I often wear the 1979 Sub or the 1974 Seiko Bell-Matic. But I’m a weirdo. Who would wear a 1960 Bulova? The victim was 35 to 55 years old. If he was 55, he may have bought it new and kept wearing it because he spent a lot of money on it and wanted to get his money’s worth. (Or he liked it generally, or for another reason.) If he was 35, he may have bought it in the early-'70s. Or he may have been killed much later, and he liked to dress in early-'80s fashions and wear vintage watches. Or the guy may have stolen it. Digital watches were all the rage in the late-'70s, and I think a younger person would be less likely to wear a vintage watch. A 35-year-old? Maybe. But I think he might have wanted something more ‘modern-looking’. (Heh. Says the guy who wears the watches he does because they’re old-fashioned! :stuck_out_tongue: ) In any case, it’s an odd watch to be wearing for someone who was wearing a then-hip Members Only jacket. It strikes me that it’s odd that a Members Only hipster would be wearing bellbottoms.

How’s this? The guy was short. Very short. If he wasn’t a jockey, he might have had some emotional issues and tried to ‘dress cool’. He didn’t get the memo that bellbottoms were on their way out in the mid-'70s, but he did notice young hipsters wearing MO jackets. He somehow obtained a nice watch, thinking it a status symbol. If the comb didn’t belong to the murderer, a 'fro might have seemed hip to someone who would wear bellbottoms in the early-'80s. I get the impression of a socially awkward guy trying to he The Cool Guy (Hit: Members Only jacket; Miss: out-of-style trousers) with Money (not-inexpensive watch). Someone that disconnected either just didn’t care, or he might not have travelled in ‘successful’ circles. I’m guessing he was in the lower half of the 35-55 age range, was single, and had a lower income. He might have gone out to a bar or a party, and pissed off the wrong person. Since he had his nice watch, robbery might not have been a motive. Maybe he had been carrying drugs, and was killed for them?

In any case, I think 1982 is in the ballpark. The age of his watch, the 1974 dime, and the bellbottoms make me think it couldn’t have been much later. Perhaps the Sri Lankan company’s records are incorrect. Members Only jackets came to the U.S. in 1980, so the murder couldn’t have happened before that.

In the mid to late 1990s I was in high school and there were people who went to thrift shops, or raided their parents’ attics, for bellbottoms and Members Only jackets and other similar out-of-fashion stuff. It was a fashion all by itself. I don’t know how the watch would fit in with that, but it’s what that assortment of items makes me think. Keeping afro picks in one’s hair was also a known thing at that time. Unfortunately, it was mostly white kids wearing the outdated clothes and mostly black kids putting combs in their hair, so that’s confusing. Then the watch makes it really confusing.

Where? I was in L.A., and I noticed younger people (teens and 20-somethings) wearing ‘hippie clothes’; but more of a ‘flower child’ style of thing. Now that you mention it, I do recall some bellbottoms. But it seemed the style was only popular amongst females. Males tended to go more for paisley vests and regular jeans, black jeans, or suit pants. The only people I saw wearing Members Only jackets in the '90s (early-'90s) were guys in their 30s or 40s who were trying to be cool.

Certainly the victim could have been doing the thrift shop fashion thing. But given his age, the watch, the comb, and the old dime, I think a more likely time frame would be '82/'83.

Here’s some more speculation from an armchair detective:

The trousers may have been from days gone by. The jacket may have been a newer purchase in the early 80s.

The fro pick may have been for naturally curly hair (I’m a Caucasian who uses one for that reason) or permed hair (my niece’s baby pics from 1980 show my bro with a curly perm). Either way, a number of folks who aren’t black use them.

The Bulova may well be another remnant of better days. Sometimes people who are down on their luck will keep something like this that is both practical and pawnable. If the skeleton is more recent, the watch may have been another find from a thrift store or a piece of estate jewelry (both of my Bulovas were part of estate lots that I pickedup for next to nothing).

The stature does have the possibility of someone who worked as a jockey.

Put together, I would look for a jockey past his prime or who had made enough in the sport to buy the watch at one point, but had a run of bad fortune that left him impoverished.

How old are jockeys, anyway? I assume a 35-year-old would still be a contender, but what about a 55-year-old?

Watches at that time that were that good were often handed down as gifts after a male relative died or as graduation gifts. Can Bulova track who bought it? Odds are, the person is deceased, so pull the Obit and track who was listed as “survived by”. Track that family tree of people for missing persons cases or black sheep that no one has heard from in years.

Other thoughts: 35-55, dating to a death date between '79 and '83. Lets take it that the unsub was 40. That means he was in his 30s around the time of the sexual revolution? Possible end: 40s guy in his “lucky jeans” buys jacket to look younger and still Leisure Suit Larry with the younger crowd. The straight white button down shirt, the jeans, the jacket, and the hair pick indicate someone who spent a lot of time on his looks that day. The style seems like someone trying to transition from Saturday Night Fever style with a Members Only jacket. I know that the comedy “Knight Rider” was already making fun of that style choice in 1982.

Possible clubbing connection? Possible coke deal gone bad?

Yeah, you’re right. I remember both sexes finding vintage bowling jackets etc. To people my age, the Members Only jackets fell in the same general category of “old and out of style”. I guess don’t remember guys wearing bellbottoms.

I was curious about this case also. His ensemble is definitely odd.

Is there some reason besides his height that there’s so much speculation about him being a jockey? I would think the vast majority of really short men are still not jockeys, and the nearby racetracks said none of their people went missing.

Could what they’re calling bell bottoms actually be boot cut? Wikipedia claims (granted, without sources) that boot cut jeans were popular in the 80’s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell-bottoms#Flare_and_boo-cut_jeans_in_the_late_1980s.2C_and_1990s

I considered it. Didn’t mention it.

It’s an area that I would expect to find jockeys. I don’t know if there’s ‘so much speculation’. May have been, may not have been. May have been one a long time before he was killed, or not. It’s a possibility to look into – which they did, and seem to have thought he may not have been since no jockeys were reported missing.

Guys, it’s clearly Tim Curry.

For what it’s worth, here’s the location on Google maps.

The jpeg from the NBC News article points out the exact location.

She stepped out of the car and onto a skull. This would seem to indicate that that area hasn’t seen any major human enchroachment since the body was dumped, since apparently no one noticed it before. Either that or something recently uncovered it. Maybe an animal, or heavy rains. I wonder how much maintenance, such as weeding, mowing, etc. is done in that area, and when it was done last. I wonder when that service road (or whatever that little curved road is) was put in.

It seems likely to me that someone pulled off onto that service road to dump or bury the body. It seems like such an obvious place for an “impulse dump” that it seems likely that the murder occurred elsewhere and somebody disposed of the body in a panic.

Or maybe I watch to many detective shows. :stuck_out_tongue:

What shoes was he wearing? Platforms would be a dead (heh) giveaway.

The clothing and belongings dating is fascinating. I do sort of like the idea of a guy shopping for clothing at a thrift store, and of hand-me-downs. I have actually worn some fairly eclectic clothing assortments when I was doing something that didn’t require me to look anywhere near put together. I helped someone move wearing an old pair of windowpane jeans, one of my dad’s hand-me-down psychadelic knit polyester shirts [fabric looked like this] from about 1970 and a pair of moc type sailing topsidersfrom the 50s. Combined with my liking for mechanical watches, and commonly wearing a soviet era one, it would be interesting to see what someone would make of my corpse from say 1990 as dated by pocket change and the outfit.

Looks like they finally found the missing “Sweathog”.