What’s wrong with Mayfield’s statement. The deadbeats and the bill collectors deserve each other.
Hiding your head in the sand won’t make the debt go away. If you are in over your head, contact your creditors and work it out. Most would rather do that.
Mayfield, IMNSHO, didn’t criticize anyone unfairly hounded by debt collectors. He did, however, point out that debt skippers are cut from the same cloth, in that they will lie repeatedly to avoid paying what they owe.
mhendo, I think you are seeing offense where there was none.
D_Odds and bernse, i’m sure you’re right. And i certainly have little time for debt-skippers. It just seemed to me that autz’s rant was about collection agencies, and the way that they treat innocent people. Shifting the focus to bad debtors does not absolve the agencies of responsibility for their asshat (and sometimes illegal) behaviour.
That said, if Mayfield was not trying to shift the blame, then i apologize.
I certainly was not trying to be critical of the OP in any way. I was responding only to lezlers’ comment regarding the fate awaiting bill collectors. If this constitutes a hijack, then I apologize. It just seemed to me that, while I agree that bill collectors and their methods are often deplorable, they and their odious methods would not exist if some people did not try to avoid their responsibilities, and those people should share their fate. Hope that clarifies, and I’ll stop hijacking now.
One of my S.O’s employees is having problems paying her car loan. She used my S.O. as a reference, and now the folks who hold her car loan are calling us to try to get hold of her. Apparently if the loan-holder can’t get hold of the debtor, they start calling the references to get hold of the debtor.
That’s pretty stupid, if you ask me. I don’t know the woman’s address or phone number. Neither me nor my S.O. is responsible for her debts.
It’s good to hear some advice about what to do if we keep getting these calls.
My comment was not meant to absolve any debtors from having to repaying their debts. That would be silly. I thought it was fairy obvious that I was referring to those debt collectors that act like assholes to people that don’t even owe the debt. You know the ones, the sadistic bullies who get off on harnessing what little percieved power they have and harrassing anyone who they feel they have even the slightest right to harrass, whether or not they’re guilty. The ones who were picked on in high school but not smart enough to get revenge by living well and are taking it out on whoever is unlucky enough to appear on their call list (whether or not it’s the right number or even the right name).
You know the ones
I don’t care how much of a scumbag some random debtor may be, that still doesn’t give the lowlifes that I described a free pass to harrass random people and accuse them of lying just because they were unfortunate enough to recieve someone’s old phone number or name.
Anyone who disagrees with that gets a warm spot in hell right next to the scumbag debtors and scumbag collections agents.
