How long would it have taken without it?
I do appreciate the responses. I was concerned that it may cause severe harm. If a client told me they were planning on trying cyanide in their dog’s food, I would strongly discourage them to the point of calling the humane society. (No one has, just if someone was doing something obviously dangerous to their pet.)
I will certainly not encourage or recommend this treatment, but I don’t think it’s so harmful that I need to take drastic action to get a client to stop.
Without it, it was getting much worse daily, almost to the bone. There was a huge sac of pus trickling down into my sock.
I’ve been using Colloidal Silver For Pets for over 10 years and never experienced any side effects. It works wonders on my dogs when they have skin infections or parasites. The “Blue Man” is widely spread by the media because the medical industry doesn’t like it when you can cure things without their high dollar prices. But as the Blue Man stated so many times…he may be blue but he’s not dead. And he improperly made his own colloidal silver therefore it didn’t exit from his body the way properly made silver does. Many reputable manufacturers for silver exist. Do your research and be sure and take note of who these “experts” are who are reporting the negative effects of taking Colloidal Silver and who they work for or represent. Properly made Colloidal Silver has never been proven to physically harm you or kill you. Unlike all the prescription medications that prescribed by doctors to supposedly help us. I have yet to see any documented studies of side effects that have truly harmed or killed anyone or anything. But I’m open to seeing them if anyone can produce them.
Okay. Without delving into my university’s journals, just using google:
Neurology. 2004 Apr 27;62(8):1408-10.
Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver.
Mirsattari SM, Hammond RR, Sharpe MD, Leung FY, Young GB.
Source Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.
Unintentional silver intoxication following self-medication: an unusual case of corticobasal degeneration.
Stepien KM, Morris R, Brown S, Taylor A, Morgan L.
Source Clinical Pathology Department, Queen’s Medical Centre, Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust, UK. firstname.lastname@example.org
J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996;34(1):119-26.
Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.
Fung MC, Bowen DL.
Source Center of Drug Evaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, Maryland, USA.
Seems to me that a lot of the silver issues were related to self-treating instead of seeing a doctor. That is a different case than using a prescribed medicine correctly and then having problems. I can’t find it at the moment but there was a woman that used prescription colloidal silver drops for a persistent sinusitis and came down with argyria. Her skin is blue but that’s about it.
These other people went way overboard.
Oh sure, absolutely. And there are almost always complicating confounding things going on which is why it’s a good idea to see a doctor, or a nurse, or at the very least a trained, reputable herbalist before you go messing with putting things that aren’t food into your body…because these body things are kind of hard to understand sometimes. Even doctors, nurses and herbalists ask other doctors, nurses and herbalists for help when they themselves get sick, because it’s really really hard to treat yourself - whenever I get sick (and I’m a nurse *and *an herbalist) everything I know flies right out of my head, and I’ve got to phone a friend and be all, “Wait, what’s good for a head cold again?”
And I don’t want you to think I’m over exaggerating the danger of colloidal silver. It usually causes nothing much to happen at all. Sometimes, but not really all that often, it turns your tissues (not just skin) blue, and we’re not really sure if it harms their function. Rarely, it causes really Bad Stuff, including death.
It’s not one I waste a whole lot of energy getting people to not use. But it’s simply not true that it’s NEVER caused serious harm or death, and **lilybug10 **said s/he was open to seeing some of the cases where it has caused serious harm and death. And so here we are.
Before the “Blue Man” was the Blue Woman, who has been warning for years about risks associated with colloidal silver. Her case apparently stemmed from improperly prescribed nose drops - and it’s this kind of side effect (as well as limited efficacy) that has greatly limited use of colloidal silver in legitimate medicine. But don’t let me get in the way of your conspiracy theory.
This is the classic alt med excuse whenever a remedy goes wrong - “you weren’t doing it right!”. :rolleyes:
You always need to look at the risk:benefit ratio. Any drug (like colloidal silver) with a significant risk of serious side effects had better have a strong effectiveness profile, or its use cannot be justified. Colloidal silver has an entirely undeserved reputation as a cure-all. I’ve never understood why alt med latches on to remedies long abandoned by evidence-based medicine for good reason.
I have yet to see a widespread discount plan for the type of stuff you and your ilk are peddling. Are there health-food store plans out there with a list of “remedies” that you can get for only a $5 or $6 co-pay? Are there “Natural” medicine insurance plans out there to help cover the extremely high costs of any of the “natural” medicines pedaled on television, on the radio or in magazines?
Funny you should mention that…
I seems as though it had any real use, insurance companies would certainly cover it. If they don’t have to pay for more expensive drugs on your prescription plan, they would stand to save substantial amounts of money.
If anyone is objective about the cost/benefit ratio of drugs, it’s going to be the companies that pay for them ultimately, and insurance companies love statistics and actuarial tables.
I could see trying it as a desperation move if I got an antibiotic resistant infection, but that’s exactly what it would be at that point, a barely rational decision based on not wanting to die, not an actual treatment with a significant chance of success.
Ignoring the issues of whether it’s effective and/or dangerous in itself,
Although the OP’s has clarified that he/she is not advocating the idea, it occurs to me that “having a dog groomer give it” would seem to be equivalent to “not seeing a doctor” and “not prescribed.” Thus, risky at best.
OP - In your position I think I would just print out a few copies of that FDA statement and quietly place them on the front counter. Or wherever you may have space to display them.
Don’t put it on yourself, but just hand one to any customer who asks for the products and say “Here’s where the experts are on this; all the products you’ll see here have been proven safe.”
Some dogs just have really white fur, and their mucus builds up near the eyes. Itdoes not necessarily indicate an infection.
With my dogs (from Siberian Huskies to English Bulldogs to German Shepherds to the current Kerry Blue Terrier - all but the last one champion show dogs) just holding a washrag with warm-not-quite-hot water against their eyes was enough to soften and wipe the goo away. The dogs loved it. They responded to the wash rag just like to the brush Weeeeee! Attention time!!! That’s for meeeeeeeee!
I’d just recommend this procedure a couple of times a week when they are otherwise cuddling anyway. If the dog reacts badly the water is probably too hot.
ETA: If you’re not grooming for a show, a little sweet almond oil rubbed into the under eye fur will prevent the goo from sticking so much.