"Condescension" as understood by Jane Austen

I prefer the Keira Knightley version to the Jennifer Ehle one, but then, I’ve long been a bit smitten with Knightley. That version has better cinematography IMHO and an Oscar-nominated soundtrack, too.

Nitpick: only one “t” in the Bennet family name.

In our time, too, really. Our Jane was quite the subversive when it came to class privilege.

To judge people on their personal qualities rather than on the accident of their birth was–then as now–rather revolutionary. That enough people were able to enjoy this aspect of Austen’s writing to make her books popular, is one of the more interesting of the many interesting things about the phenomenon of her success.

Too poor for a second ‘t’.

Heh. Abraham Lincoln said of his wealthy and influential in-laws, “God is content with one ‘d,’ but of course the Todds must have two.”

And if things don’t improve, they’re going to have to sell off an ‘n’.

That’s all well and good, but the other version had both Colin Firth and Colin Firth soaking wet…

Watched Episode 1 per your advice and did love it. Remaining episodes on hold while I watch Breaking Bad 5/10. :wink:

Me too, and this worried me about watching Jennifer Ehle, whom I’d never heard of. :rolleyes:

But … I’m pleased to announce that Ms. Ehle has been promoted to my personal list of the World’s Most Spectacularly Beautiful Women! :cool:

Of course, Jane was supposed to be the true beauty, while Lizzie was a close second.

septimus - I’m glad you enjoyed it! I think interspersing an hour of P&P with an hour of BB could really mess a person up.

StG

Bumped.

I just read Edmund S. Morgan’s The Genius of George Washington, which includes an excerpt from a 1775 letter from Gen. Washington, advising a newly-appointed colonel in the Continental Army: “Be easy and condescending in your deportment to your officers, but not too familiar, lest you subject yourself to a want of that respect, which is necessary to support a proper command.”

Interesting find.

And the use of “condescending” in the sense of “admirable kindness to one’s inferiors” seems a bit more acceptable, to modern ears, in a military context than in a social one. Hierarchy as an organizing principle for the Army makes perfect sense–whereas hierarchy as an organizing principle for a society depends on the accident of birth. We moderns tend to see that as being inherently lacking in fairness.

Great screen name.

I’ve been watching Band of Brothers lately and there’s a character, Lt Buck Compton, and it’s implied that he has a problem because he’s too familiar with the enlisted men in his command. While he’s popular, this familiarity makes it difficult for him to lead them in combat.

Perhaps when Lady Catherine said “I require tea!” they misunderstood?

My favorite lines from the remake of 101 Dalmatians:

Cruella De Vil: “What kind of sycophant are you?”
Frederick: “Uh, what kind of sycophant would you like me to be?”

Yes. It’s called fraternization: Fraternization - Wikipedia

Occasionally I get a bit wistful for earlier. less sex-obsessed times, when one’s vocabulary could be a bit more expansive: when “ejaculate” could be used as a synonym for “exclaim”, and an “erection” could mean a tall, impressive building, without people automatically sniggering / nudging / winking / collapsing with mirth.

And it captures exactly how Mrs. Bennett became the most annoying woman in literature. :slight_smile:

Also, Colin Firth goes swimming in his gentlemanly white linen shirt. :smiley:

OK, that’s two mentions of that scene in this thread…

which miraculously dries out within a second of his emerging from the water…

Colin Firth in his absolute prime, soaking wet…

Four and counting.