Just a wild ass guess here, but Jesco White probably flies the rebel flag for the same reason that other people mentioned in this thread fly it. He considers himself to be rebelling against the modern-day standards in the U.S.; pseudo-intellectual atheist cubicle workers who spend their work days on the internet talking about schizophrenia and anal sex, when they are not fighting the racism that hides in every dark corner.
Relevant xkcd.
Cool, I never thought that there wold be webcomics about about schizophrenics and anal sex!
Do you know of any webcomics about the fear of racism lurking in every dark corner of a schizophrenics mind?
I believe that the panhandle counties were made part of WV simply because of the B&O and not because of the referendum.
I was specifically addressing the issue of the southern counties, because the Eastern Panhandle counties had additional complications. They, like the southern counties and mountain counties, would have probably voted against separation from Virginia if their voters weren’t all off to war—fighting for the Confederacy. The difference between Berkeley and Jefferson Counties and the other “kidnapped” counties in the new West Virginia was that Virginia actually cared enough about losing them to sue to have them returned.
Virginia didn’t care much that the residents of the other parts of West Virginia may have been effectively disenfranchised by military service and irregular elections. But they did care about the economically more-important counties along the Potomac. They spent the first several years after the war trying to get them back until the US Supreme Court ruled in 1870 that they legally belonged to WV, (and therefore “tough cookies!”) This was the case of Virginia v. West Virginia.
The suit in VA v. WV, if decided the other way, would have undone the admission of WV by declaring it illegal. But that wasn’t really VA’s motivation, it was just a side-effect. They cared about Berkeley and Jefferson. Had it not been for the “theft” of those counties, Virginia would have likely said “good riddance” to the dead weight on the other side of the Allegheny Mountains. (And I say that as a proud, native West Virginian…I know how they felt, and feel, about us)
Plenty of Confederate battle flags to be seen in rural Ohio, and Ohio (despite a strong Copperhead presence, esp. in the southern part of the state) was arguably more important to the eventual triumph of the Union during the Civil War than any other single state. Nowadays the flag is more about saying “I’m a rebel and a good ol’ boy, dammit!” than “Jefferson Davis was a great guy!” I’ve even seen bumperstickers that show the flag and the words “Heritage, Not Hate.”
Precisely.
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Maybe I’m dense but I don’t see the political commentary?
I think the argument is something like…WV stayed loyal and Virginia seceeded…and so WV which was essentially the ‘Virginia legislature’ voted to become WV and a different state from Virginia.
Virginia could have sent delegates to the loyal Virgina legislature to stop this, but they didn’t.
I can buy this argument. I think it is legit 
I wasn’t attemting to correct you or anything… just add the B&O to the scenario for those who might think the US’ motives were pure.
Even if there weren’t any comments about Repubs and Demos, it was clearly threadshitting and had nothing to do with the topic.
On topic:
My Mexican hubby and I used to count the rebel flags on the way to my parents’ house in the 'burbs (before they moved to the boonies). I think we got up to 12 or so. It was an hour drive, but all the flags showed up in the last 10 minutes of the trip. There are none where I live.
My dad? He flies the American flag. He has a bald eagle tattoo.
It’s probably more to do with a liking for C & W music.
I saw a lot of Confederate flags in rural Michigan. It seems to just be a symbol of anti-Black racism.
Yeah, I see them in rural Maryland, a slave state that did not join the Confederacy. I think it is a symbol of racism with a thin veneer of heritage.
Not all West Virginians are familiar with their state’s history, or else pretend it was something else entirely.
I don’t actually hate the Yankees, though there’s a degree of loathing and contempt for their ownership and fans.
Maybe it’s because I’m from Virginia but that is not how I’ve viewed it. The flag is a symbol of “Look at me, I’m a rebel. Aren’t you shocked?” Yes, only white people display it in most case. Still, it is displayed for shock value in my experience, rather than as some sort of anti-black rally flag.
I’ve known plenty of very strong racists and don’t remember any of them displaying rebel flags. I’ve seen the flag plenty in college dorms, on punk rockers and in the back of pickup trucks that have never gotten dirt on their tires.
And in 45 years I have yet to see any black person sport one. I don’t deny their existence- with tens of millions of people to choose from odds are that out there somewhere there’s a black guy with one the size of a bedsheet flying in his yard a big picture of General Lee on his wall- but I’ve truly never known one who had.
Of course there’s the guy in Georgia who has a sign calling Obama the “n*gger in the White House” and displays KKK paraphernalia in his bar, but, of course, you guessed it, he says he’s not a racist; the crazy thing is that he probably believes it.
I’m from Virginia too and I don’t know anyone who displays the confederate flag who isn’t a racist. Maybe, it was true when I was a kid in the early 70s that the flag didn’t always indicate racism, because it was so much more common to see it displayed then, but now it is pretty much the racists’ flag.
There are so many posts here about mental illnesses that no one can keep up with them, but i will list a few if you really care.
There are so many posts here from fevered finger pointing at “racists” that no one can keep a number of them.
I’m sorry that I could not help but make a connection between the two.
I think you’re really just ticked off about misidentifying the critter in the Panama Canal thread, and looking for an excuse to shit can the only person who knew what it was. :dubious:
I’d like to hope that the mods here wouldn’t stoop to that, but…yeah, it’s a pretty human sort of thing to do. And since there was no obvious good reason to threaten you so bluntly, I’m going to make the guess that you correctly identified the motivation of the mod.