Confess!!! (your climate sins)

My sin/confession is I do not give a flying flock about plastic straws as an environmental threat

Bad: I got rid of the Prius and bought a gas user
Good: I only put about 5,000 miles per year on it and use public transit for most city travel.
Bad: I have an RV
Good: It’s a van conversion and we only use it a few times per year
Bad: We have an AC
Good: It’s energy efficient and a heat pump. Also, we have a tankless water heater.

Does the Right believe that about other branches of science? Do they feel that chemistry is a religion? How about physics? Do they feel that gravity if just a miracle that the physics god produces whenever we fall down?

When one remembers that Richard Nixon proposed the establishment of EPA and many Republicans then approved it, one can see how far have the Republicans of today have fallen for gross misinformation.

I bought a 2001 Honda Insight, the first hybrid I’d ever seen, but eventually the hybrid battery went bad. Yes, I could have spent $1200-2k for a new one, but I disconnected it and am driving my little two-seater as a ::gasp:: ordinary car.

Guilt-free, ya hippie eco-hipsters.

Since this apparently passed unnoticed, I just wanted to draw attention to the slide into absurdity of these examples. What, are we supposed to eat our oatmeal raw? And if we don’t have space or weather to dry clothes outdoors, we’re supposed to let them drip on the carpet? You appear to be trying to demonize anyone who cares about climate change by putting ridiculous words in their mouths.

I presume from your attitude that you don’t have children or anyone younger than yourself whom you worry about leaving the world in a worse state than you found it. I am fortunate, too, in that regard in that I’ll be dead (I hope) before the worst of climate change takes effect, and I’m not leaving any descendants, but for some reason I still seem to care about it. Funny old world.

so, you’re driving a very fuel efficient 18 year old subcompact? what’s the problem? ;)spread the CO2 produced in manufacturing the car over 18 years? the carbon footprint must be minimal.

I’m in a similar way, my '12 VW Golf TDI may only be a mere 8 years old, but the VW diesel engines are basically bulletproof, and it’s not unusual to get 300,000-400,000 miles off them, some have been 700,000+, plus mine has the diesel particulate filter (no soot in the tailpipe even at 5,000 miles), my plan is to run it until the wheels fall off, then repair it and run it until they fall off again, the only downside is here in New England, the winter road salt loves to eat the chassis, most new England cars have the body rot off before the engine dies

spread the carbon produced in manufacture over 400,000 miles and it’s minimal

…it’s certainly better than buying a new car every four years…

We upgraded from a 900sf apartment near San Diego to a 2200sf house in Eugene with central AC and heat (lose).

However, we have excellent insulation and double glazed windows throughout and our electric bills are lesd than we used to pay (win).

For the second time in time in my life I have to drive nearly everywhere (lose)

On the other hand, 85% of our power comes from hydro and 10% from renewable sources (win win!).

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Sin is not a concept I subscribe to.

My carbon footprint is less than Al Gore’s, so I’m golden. I have nothing to confess.

No, just pour cold water on it and wait for it to soak in. It takes a little longer, but you’ll reduce your carbon footprint.

Don’t be silly. They don’t drip if you run them through a hand-cranked wringer before drying them on a line or rack in your living room. I remember doing this at my grandma’s house back in the 1970s (no joke).

The concept of “sin” is that it is a bright, hard line that is not to be crossed. I’m bothered by the difficulty of defining what is and is not a “climate sin,” and dove into the absurd to make that point. This Cracked article is relevant, particularly point #3. An excerpt:

I think it is good to encourage people to reduce their carbon footprint, but I think it’s dangerous to do so by trying to binarize activities as either “sin” or “not-sin”. For every future-minded person driving a hybrid car, there’s someone else who feels superior for driving an all-electric car - and someone else who opted for an electrically-assisted bicycle. And someone else who opted for a conventional pedal bicycle. And then there’s that other hard-core green guy who stubbornly walks three miles to and from work each day, not because he’s poor or needs the exercise, but because it’s the lowest carbon footprint he could come up with for his commute. He sees all of us as climate-sinners.

Are you joking or do American washing machines not have a spin cycle? I regularly dry the clothes on a rack in the spare room, and they come out of the machine damp, not dripping wet. What’s the point of tumble-drying everything?

What are you doing using a washing machine? That takes electricity! Sinner! :stuck_out_tongue:

Can’t speak for Roderick Femm, but my grandmother was English, living in England. The washing machine that she had back in the 1970s did not have a spin feature, so yes, a wringer was required. At some point she replaced the wringer with a separate machine whose sole purpose was the spin cycle. So wash the clothes in the washer, transfer them to the spinner, then transfer them to the clothesline. Fun times.

In Japan these days, it’s pretty typical to have one single machine that does it all: wash, spin, heat-dry.

I’m liking post 31. It’s a good one, and I agree.

Really? What makes you think that?

It’s a classic tactic of deniers. “Yur science is just a religion ha ha ha!!”

Antivaxers play this game too.

If your position is based on solid evidence that can be replicated by quality peer-reviewed published research, that somehow equates to sun worship. :dubious:

I drive a gas guzzler, get about 13 miles to a gallon.

I try to reuse plastic bags as much as possible. My wife and I reuse zip lock bags unless they had meat in them.

The amount of waste generated by my employer is absolutely ridiculous. It’s considered the cost of doing business. A lot of what is thrown away could be recycled and/or reused but it costs more than just throwing it away. Some big airplane parts come in big plywood boxes. They go straight to the trash, I could make a lot of things from the wood.

Yeah, and since the jist of the OP is right vs. left, I don’t consider this a hijack. Right vs. left is a way to make it sound like merely a political difference. But it’s not that. Scientists around the world are concerned about our effect on climate and the environment. It’s pretty much American political conservatives who oppose the science.

We used to be able to point to flat-earthers to show how ridiculous this argument is. I think these days they’d say “well, maybe they have a point!”

The fact that climate change isnt a religion – for one, it’s not based on faith or a book written thousands of years ago, it’s based on evidence.