Tell that to the Supreme Court, who found differently in a slew of cases involving Guantanamo.
OK, it’s all my fault. It is a small price to pay to have Barack Obama as president.
“A compass will point you true north. But it won’t show you the swamps between you and there. If you don’t avoid the swamps, what’s the use of knowing true north?” -paraphrased from the ***Lincoln ***movie currently out.
We could all be purists and vote our consciences without regard to political realities.
In which case Romney would be president and we’d be even more fucked.
The Boumediene v. Bush decision and its progeny revolved around the fact that the US effectively exercises de facto sovereignty over Guantanamo - that it’s US soil in everything but name. That’s not the case with regard to say, Afghanistan.
Trying to make this into “what, do you want ROMNEY to win?” when the election is in the history books just shows how little defense the bloodthirsty Obama voters have for the actions of their despicable messiah.
“bloodthirsty Obama voters”?
“despicable messiah”?
The grown-ups are talking; Why don’t you run along outside and play a nice little game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself.
Are Republicans campaigning on a “Be nice to criminals, suspected terrorists and enemy combatants” platform now? Did I miss something?
Yeah, I don’t like the idea of it happening, but I don’t labor under some idea that 'Pubs want to treat those people better than 'Bama.
I could be wrong, but I think the OP is from the loony left wing, where anyone more moderate than Ho Chi Minh is a sellout to the corporatist baby killers. Our version of Michele Bachmann, if you will.
The only time Afghanistan is ever going to be ahead of America is in an alphabetical listing.
USA! USA! USA!
Amidoingitright?
You are.
Not left, pro civil rights. Which is to say that I believe that the power to sentence you to life in prison should only be available to the government if they can first prove you’ve actually done something wrong in a court of law.
One of the most childish things one hears around this place is “the grown-ups are talking”.
Especially when you’ve been whooshed.
That wasn’t a whoosh. All of Condescending Robot’s posts look like that.
Aw, that’s cute.
Another thing that you murder-cheerleaders keep doing is pretending that the mature adult position is that the world is divided into good guys and bad guys and that if the good guys just kill enough bad guys everything will be okay. This seems both obviously mentally defective and something of a reversal of what Democrats used to believe back when Republicans were the ones leading the war machine.
Do you feel impotent about your inability to ban people for dissenting from Obama’s war crimes policy in this forum? Not able to do something for Emperor Jesus today and mark your calendar? Is there some sort of rosary you can fiddle with to atone?
I must have confused him with someone else. Whoosh on me! 
THE ELECTION IS OVER
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT MITT ROMNEY CLAIMS TO OR ACTUALLY DOES BELIEVE
The moral depravity of the Obama foreign policy is an absolute nightmare for the soul of any human being who supports it; the fact that some other person may have believed similar or worse things is completely IRRELEVANT to that fact. Heal your broken conscience.
We’re discussing an OP that says:
IOW, part of the OP’s thesis is that those of us who have voted for Obama have made certain things worse by doing so. Given that there were two possible outcomes of this election, the nature of the other possible outcome is directly relevant to the truth or untruth of the OP’s thesis.
Which is why I’m glad to see that gamerunknown brought up torture. Because it’s worth noting in this context that under the previous Administration, people in Iraq and Afghanistan were tortured to death by Americans, that that Administration openly advocated the use of physical torture, that it wasn’t particularly upset by instances of torture that resulted in captives’ deaths, that Obama has brought the use of physical torture by agents of the U.S. government to an end (although, alas, continuing the use of psychological torture in the form of excessively long periods of solitary confinement), and that Romney would have likely returned us to something akin to the Bush policies on physical torture, based on both his own words and the composition of his foreign policy team.
Obama’s a long way from perfect, but to imply that a vote for Obama was unambiguously a vote for diminished civil rights for detainees in American prisons abroad is simply wrong.
Fuck that. You are deliberatly muddying the water.
The US is not involved in a war, rules for pow’s are well defined and actually quite humane.
The US is occupying a foreign nation and is cutting corners in policing it. Yes this is very common in occupations, but it is completely unheard of that this leads to a stable and lastingly peacefull society.
The only way to steer Afganistan clear of a fundamentalist future is showing that democracy and the rule of law works and leads to a fair and prosporous society. Puppet dictators and people in prison without trails is the best propaganda the Taliban could wish for.
Of course doing stuff the right way is much harder, that’s the point