Right. The official account is lies, all lies. Kennedy wasn’t really president. He was shot by a curare poisoned blowgun, not a rifle. He wasn’t killed, he’s still alive. He wasn’t riding in a limousine, but on elephant back. He was secretly a woman. And he wasn’t even in Dallas at the time of the non-assassination, which was actually three days later.
If we start with the axiom that the official account is a lie, then what next? Oswald can’t be what he appears–a lone nut with a gun. He must–MUST–be something else, because otherwise the official account is true, and we know that it can’t be true. But if that’s the only thing we know for sure, that Oswald was not a lone nut with a gun, then we’re left with nothing, since nothing else makes any sense.
The problem with this theory is that Oswald wasn’t living the life of a stereotypical crazed loner. He was a married family man who worked a regular job.
If he was recruited by some mysterious conspiracy group, somebody would have noticed. But Oswald never received secretive phone calls or letters or met with any mysterious strangers. If Oswald was recruited as a patsy, who was giving him his orders?
…handed out communist literature on streetcorners, took sudden trips to Mexico City to try and get into Cuba, posed for pictures with his guns in the backyard, took nighttime sniper shots at generals, had basically deserted as a Marine, married a Russian woman and then been thrown back out of the USSR… yep, Joe Sixpack.
I don’t see any reason he couldn’t have been conspiring on the QT from his “normal guy” life. But the utter lack of evidence that anyone was in on the planning or even encouragement means you could substitute almost anything for “JFK assassination” - being gay, communicating with aliens, planning to blow up a supermarket, having an affair…
Ironically, that’s not too far from an actual conspiracy theory: “Another theory proposed by Robert Cutler and endorsed by Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty is that the umbrella may have been used to fire a dart with a paralyzing agent at Kennedy to immobilize his muscles and make him a “sitting duck” for an assassination.”
(Umbrella man (JFK assassination) - Wikipedia)
And, as any devoted reader of this and other JFKCT threads know, it would have been completely unnecessary, since his massive back brace essentially paralyzed him anyway and contributed to making the kill shot possible.
This one’s up there with an elaborate conspiracy that places JFK in a parade float carefully made up to look like a Lincoln Continental…
You’re missing my point, which is that we know all this stuff about Oswald. Yes, he was alone when he shot Kennedy but he didn’t live alone. He was always around people like his wife, his family, his friends, and his co-workers. So we can reconstruct pretty much everything he did in the final weeks of his life.
If Oswald had been part of a conspiracy, we’d know about it. There would have been times when he slipped away to meet people or when he talked to people on the phone. If he was being set up to take the fall, somebody would have had to tell him where to be when Kennedy was killed. And if any of this had happened, the people around Oswald would have seen it. But nobody saw it because it didn’t happen.
Poor Oswald. He was an angry failure at practically everything else he tried in life. The one time he succeeds, and people are trying to find someone else to pin it on.
The Kennedy thing has been done to death, but I still have two questions:
-are any Federal documents relating to the event or investigation still “sealed”-till when?
-I have long suspected that Oswald had some very strange relationship with the CIA-has anything on this ever been published?
About Oswald’s relationship with the CIA: Oswald was in the Marines, had defected to the USSR, and then came back, was busily doing his penny-ante advocating for the communists in Cuba, and had tried to get into Cuba through Mexico. So of course the CIA was aware of Oswald. On the other hand, they would have to be nuts to be using him as any kind of asset.
What leads you to think that the CIA would not have used Oswald? The CIA itself was led by mentally unstable types-like James Angleton (whose obsession with Soviet moles nearly destroyed the agency). They also recruited criminals, sex offenders, and other unsavory types, over the years. I have very little faith in the CIA-despite all the money spent on them, they often deliver bad or plain wrong information.
This wouldn’t have been some third world deputy dictator in a small Latin American county that no one had heard of that you were trying to assassinate. This was, well, the leader of the firck’n free world. If this gets out, the entire CIA might have been closed down, or at the very least, torn down to the studs. Are you putting this whole operation and the secrecy that was required in the hands of a nut bag attention whore
I don’t think he’s proposing that the CIA was using Oswald for the assassination, just that there was some previous cooperation between them. I highly doubt that because Oswald was such a flake and in no position to help the CIA.
ralph124c, sure, the CIA had relations with unsavory types, but those people were in a position to be used for the CIA’s goals. Oswald was a nobody.
Speaking of the CIA lying to us, did you see the Frontline on the torture questions? Problem is there are two stories about how it went down and if torture produced actionable intelligence. One story is being told by the CIA the other is being told by Senate investigators. Who’s telling the truth is anybody’s guess.
I am not a moderator, but please start a new thread if you want discussion on this. This thread is of continuing value on its topic and is NOT a general “evil gummint” omnibus.
