There’s a CT concerning The Government using a program to monitor all of the phones in the country. When it detects certain words it… does something. Records it, alters someone to listen in… something like that. This project had a Name, but I can’t remember what it is.
Conspiracy theory is too strong a term IMO. ECHELON DOES exist, and it DOES eavesdrop on telecommunications, and it is an incredibly well kept secret. It is just not as powerful as it was assumed by many (or at least it didn’t used to be, with a few years of Moore’sl Law, and technical advances under its belt who knows ?).
From the EU report on it:
That a global system for intercepting communications exists, operating by means of
cooperation proportionate to their capabilities among the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia and
New Zealand under the UKUSA Agreement, is no longer in doubt. It may be assumed, in
view of the evidence and the consistent pattern of statements from a very wide range of
individuals and organisations, including American sources, that the system or parts of it were,
at least for some time, code-named ECHELON. What is important is that its purpose is to
intercept private and commercial communications, and not military communications.
Analysis has revealed that the technical capabilities of the system are probably not nearly as
extensive as some sections of the media had assumed. Nevertheless, it is worrying that many
senior Community figures, in particular European Commissioners, who gave evidence to the
Temporary Committee, claimed to be unaware of this phenomenon.*
Not a very well-kept secret if some schmo can ask its name on a message board and get an answer!
Maybe ‘CT’ was too strong, if it exists. It’s just a handle I used because I read about it in Everything Is Under Control. Whether or not it’s real isn’t important to me. It just popped into my head and I couldn’t remember the name.
Just popping in to bring up Cecil’s article on this very topic.
So, yeah, there is an Echelon, evidently, but chances are good that it is overwhelmed by the quantity of communication, if its even being used in that manner. So there is a little more to this than most conspiracy theories, albeit not much to get worked up over. After all, the core of the theory involves phones and the system isn’t likely to have the capabilities to make that attractive.
Well, yes, there’s that . What I meant is that the governments actual ability to do the things it wants are limited by the state of the tech (granted, the article was written in 2001, so that could have changed) and manpower. By all means though, be concerned about the presence of the desire. Lord knows I am.
Actually I think its Carnivore. Echelon was designed to monitor foreign conversations , while Carnivore was for domestic, been a while since I looked at what they wanted to do.
I’ve used the overwhelming evidence for the existence of Echelon in debates against CT nuts – it’s something for which there’s a real interest to keep it secret, which seems comparatively easy to keep quiet (in contrast to, say, aliens abducting NASA actors and placing them on the moon) and yet, we know basically all about it, and have for quite some time.
Naturally, it didn’t work.
Also, I’ll sometimes include keywords – bomb, terrorist attack, bin Laden, stuff like that – in my phone calls, and then leave a greeting, on the off chance someone actually has to sift through all that crap; I figure people who have to listen to other people’s private conversations need a smile every now and then, it’s gotta be a damn depressing job.
For a while, the greeting on my answering machine ended with, “and if the Attorney General is listening, your wife wants you to pick up a quart of tequila and a dozen limes on your way home.”