Contact voltage

I came across this on a dog forum: http://www.animalfair.com/home/protecting-pets-electrifying-danger/ it set off my male bovine excrement detector. I did a search here on “contact voltage” and found nothing. contact+ voltage give a number of unlikely looking threads.

I have my doubts about this. I checked snopes and found nothing. I did a search and the only link to a known site I found was a definition at ieee.org

While manholes are largely masonry, the cover base is steel and in contact with the earth. The masonry won’t conduct power up to the cover unless it was wet. In such a case, it would short to ground. Even if the ground is dry, anytime it was wet, it would short out bring the repair man.

Such a hazard would be more likely to kill a dog than a person since they don’t wear Nikes.

It happens, at least to people. I’ve heard of several cases where pets have been killed this way.

BTW, I was in Vegas the night mentioned above, and it was a hell of a storm.

I’ve never heard the term “contact voltage” used in that manner. When you are talking about electrical hazards, the “resistance” of the human body is not a constant thing. If you apply a relatively low voltage to a human body, the current that results will give an effective impedance of several hundred thousand ohms. Raise the voltage though and the human body’s effective impedance drops to only a thousand ohms or less. So the body’s electrical characteristics depend on the “contact voltage” or “touch voltage”.

Contact voltage is also used to describe the voltage across relay contacts.

Use of the term “contact voltage” in the context of the OP seems a bit odd to me, but the phenomenon itself certainly occurs (I would be more inclined to use the term “electrical hazard” to describe it though).

In power systems, just like in your house, there are protective devices. Overcurrent devices will trip just like the breaker in your breaker box. In your home, if you touch the electrical "hot’ wire and put your other hand in the bathroom sink, enough current can flow through you to kill you, but it may not be enough current to trip the breaker. This is why they invented GFCIs. The same thing can happen in a big power system. You can have a fault with current flowing through it, and it may not be enough to trip an overcurrent detector, and therefore may be difficult for the power company to even detect. After all, to the power company it just looks like an electrical load somewhere, not much different than current being drawn by an office building or business machinery.

Let’s say a high voltage wire wears through its insulation, and a fault develops. Yes, it will be “shorted to ground”, but if the current path isn’t all that solid, there won’t be enough current to trip the line. What you’ll get though is a voltage gradient along the fault. If it’s a 6,000 volt distribution line, and it follows a 300 yard long piece of pipe until it reaches a good solid earth ground, then you’ll have 6,000 volts at the location of the fault, 3,000 volts halfway along the pipe, 1,500 volts 3/4ths of the way along the pipe, etc. If a piece of metal attached to that pipe happens to come to the surface and you touch it while touching something that makes a better connection to earth ground, and suddenly you’ve got in excess of a thousand volts applied across your body.

Most of the time, electrical faults will trip protective devices, make smoke, or have a really colorful arcing light and sound display that make it fairly obvious that a fault has occurred. Once in a while though you get a more silent fault like the above case, and that can be deadly. Especially when the voltage from a distribution line is more than high enough to penetrate even your rubber soled Nikes.

Are you asking if it happens at all or exactly how it happens? Regardless of what they call it, the phenomenon is real. The story in the link is from Providence, RI but there have been a number of cases in nearby Boston as well. I never heard of it before I moved to New England but it happens with surprising frequency up here.

Here is one case in Boston with references to some others.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebostonchannel.com%2Fnews%2F5946530%2Fdetail.html&ei=7f3TTpDqFJLNtgf-3K23Dg&usg=AFQjCNFgTV9J_2nvg79ONcJN-GPocd0Lsw&sig2=U4RfqWJRjeLA8GkEOhYqjg

There were a lot of cases in Seattle last year; one dog was electrocuted. The city found 56 instances of voltage leakage at streetlights and utility covers.

I am not arguing it doesn’t happen. Now a metal light pole bolted down to dry concrete could easilly become hot and kill somebody. I guess there are ways a manhole cover could become hot, but hardly easily enough to be more than a fluke.

One of the things I did as a factory manager was to have what I think the engineer called phase lights installed. They were just a light connected between each of the phases and ground. 480 three phase happily continues to work if one phase is shorted to ground. However that phase’s light will go out. When a light goes out, that means you best locate the fault before somebody gets killed. The details are hazy. We had three phase 4160V coming in and 2 different transformers breaking it down to 480V. I am not sure if we had lights for both transformers.

Really? I’ve always called it “voltage drop.”

As in 24 volt coil voltage 240 volt contact voltage, for example. Not talking about voltage drop.

Phase lights work when the transformers are delta wound, that is with no center tap. They can show a ground of a few mili amps.

In older wirring systems the ground may have been the conduit. If there is any loose connections then the device can become ungrounded. If there is any leakage current, through wires, coils, or ballast, then there can be a ungrounded or standing voltage on the metal parts.

Some years ago I mounted a duplex outlet box and pluged in two show cases with lights in them. The sales manager of the department unpluged one show case pluged in a two wire zip cord plug the show case and a sun glass case into the zip cord. one show case was still grounded the other was ungrounded. I got the call that customers were getting shocked off the show cases. When I saw what the problem was I got my fluke out and measured the standing voltage between the two show cases. it was 94 VAC. Ihe zip cord was cut into little pieces and words were exchanged.

Stray voltage is a well known and publicized concept. Pets and farm animals have been killed from these currents. Even humans have suffered. One site has a map of stray voltage in New York City where it has been studied. Just Google “stray voltage.”

The IEEE working group on stray voltage distinguishes between stray voltage and contact voltage (warning: PDFs). Both are voltages (with respect to some local ground) on an accessible conductor.

Stray voltage is typically under 10V, and caused by differences in ground potential - from current flowing through the earth, grounding problems, etc. The source impedance is often high (thousands of ohms or more).

Contact voltage occurs when an accessible conductor becomes energized through direct conduct with a live conductor. This could happen due to damaged or aging insulation, or through something like an ice-saltwater slush making a temporary conduction path between an accessible metal object and an energized conductor. Contact voltage is typically at the full line voltage (e.g. 120V or higher), and the source impedance is often fairly low (tens of ohms).

Contact voltage is typically measured with a low input impedance meter - Fluke makes some DVMs with a “Lo-Z” AC input for this.

The root causes, and hazards are different for stray voltage and contact voltage.