Btw, this belief in “aliens” has already infected some of the supposed holders of all truth in modern society, the scientists:
“The mission of the SETI Institute is to explore, understand and explain the origin, nature and prevalence of life in the universe.”
http://www.seti-inst.edu/
Billions and billions of stars in our universe are not proof of billions and billions of aliens out there, no matter how they spin the numbers.
Nope, not proof.
But evidence that the likelihood is great enough to justify the search for those who are so inclined.
You would be surprised how many scientists *believe *in aliens. Some come right out and say there must aliens. This is a growing trend in the scientific community, based on zero evidence.
hmmm
That should have read: there must be aliens.
Some people are that convinced that there must be life out there, that there must have been or will be or is intelligent life out there.
Some of those are scientists. Personally, I hope dearly that there is.
Some people believe that said life has visited us.
Those people may or may not be scientists. Most of the time, they are not.
Anyone is capable of believing anything. What’s your point, GOM?
Your desire for aliens makes me wonder: Do you hope dearly for God, or just for aliens?
I see the alleged aliens as nothing but a deception. Many scientists, OTOH, seem more than willing to leap to a conclusion they have no evidence for. Here’s today’s example:
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/artificial_life_030507.html
You would be surprised how many scientists *believe *in deity. Some come right out and say there must deity. This is a growing trend in the scientific community, based on zero evidence.
Your wondering makes me hope for pizza.
What kind of a non sequitur is this?
About the only reference to extraterrestrial life i found @ your link
It somehow sounds different than what you seem to imply.
Certainly, I would… Hm. You know, that’s an interesting question.
Aliens, presumably, would give the comfort of knowing we are not alone, however, they would most probably not have interfered in our development as a species.
God gives the same comfort, but also creates issues of “If God is good, why is there George Bush”? That sort of annoying thing. Which god? Am I worshipping the wrong one? What if I don’t like God?
And, of course, the point is that I may find out about aliens in my lifetime. I only may find out about God after I die.
… I’m not sure, frankly, but I’ve got to say, while they offer similar comfort in abstract, once you think about it, they’re very different sorts of longing for knowlege.
All things considered, I’d love proof for both or either, provided I don’t have to be dead. I’d rather avoid being dead for as long as reasonably and morally possible.
There’s a difference in believing that life has evolved on other worlds and believing life forms have visited Earth. Even more so that those aliens have interacted (often in unpleasant ways) with humans.
The former is simply based on the assumption that there must likely be other worlds in the universe where life could start and evolve (that doesn’t automatically guarantee Vulcans or Ewoks of course, maybe just plants and animals or even simple cellular life).
The latter assumes that some life forms have found ways of crossing the rather large distances between worlds, found Earth, and decided to experiment on people or control them to some end. To me that’s far too broad an assumption.
A most interesting point. I sometimes think that belief in God is not growing among scientists, based on some of the silly things I see in science articles. However, you just reminded me that Dr. Hugh Ross has mentioned how he was surprised to find so many Christians at Cal Tech who were scientists.
Your other point about zero evidence for God is incorrect. You can reject the evidence, if you choose, but our modern society has more evidence for God than any other generation has ever been blessed with.
I’m not sure why you didn’t go 'head and provide a cite. Surely you knew this was coming:
Cite, please
I believe in God. I have felt his presence in my life. But, I have no evidence whatsoever. What I have experienced is enough for me. But, it meets no standard of evidence-legal, scientific, or otherwise.
If you have proof, let’s see it.
Sorry. Been very busy and lost track of this thread. I’ll try to post a few things in the next few days.
Why don’t you just start a new thread and let this one die already, GOM?
Who’s going to wade through 35 (35!) pages for your evidence?
Here’s a guy who says he has a fifteen point test to tell fake psychic from real ones.
“Genuine & Legitimate Psychic Mediums List!”
He seems to fail to mention what the fifteen points of his test are.
:surprise:
I’m emailing him to see what they are.
You may do the same.
Here’s his email address:
info@bestpsychicmediums.com
His endorsement of the psychics on his lists comes with a disclaimer, of course.
May the gods forgive me for resurrecting this Great Beast of a thread.
It’s alive!
That website is wonderful (in a horribly ignorant way)
At the very top:
Well, it certainly needs that.
But then he goes on and says:
(bolding mine. Check Randi’s website for his dealings with Sylvia.)
He has a number of links for his book about psychics, and how amazing the readings are. What he doesn’t include are any transcrips of psychic readings. He does say this:
Hmm. He obviously doesn’t know what a skeptic really is, any more than Lekatt does. And if one reading could turn him into a “believer” he was pretty easily manipulated too.
And you seem pretty easily manipulated by skeptics, and don’t know what a real psychic is, many are converted on the first reading. Watch James Van Praagh.
I have watched him Lekatt, he’s a fraud.