Demand it from who, exactly? If the cops didn’t like where they’re carrying their stun guns, what’s stopping them from just… carrying it differently? Who would this outcry be directed towards?
What would be proven by her feeling terrible?
I have reason to believe that many people who killed others in anger felt terrible right after the realization of what they did hit them. I suspect that many husbands who killed their wives were very sorrowful and remorseful as they stood over the body.
That they immediately regretted a decision doesn’t mean that they didn’t make a decision.
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Demand it from who, exactly? If the cops didn’t like where they’re carrying their stun guns, what’s stopping them from just… carrying it differently?
In my fruitless search for a news story about a cop trying to pull a gun to defend himself and accidentally pulling a taser, there were several mentions of police regs and procedures in certain locales where the placement of the taser was mandatory.
Are those regulations being set by someone other than cops?
I assume that by LA Police, they mean only LAPD. Los Angeles Sherriff’s department stats may be separate.
I do not know.
I would interested to know several things.
- What was said to 911 operators. Did they say suspect was ‘armed’, implying a gun?
- What was relayed to police? Clearly, they are expecting a gun battle as they enter the building. They guys looking for the sniper in Full Metal Jacket looked more relaxed than these guys.
- If they released the camera footage from the store, why didn’t they release the body cam video? Or did I miss a link somewhere?
I just found this , though.
Brooklyn Center Police Department protocol dictates that officers wear their guns on their dominant side and Tasers on the opposite side of their bodies, to reduce the risk that they will confuse the two weapons.
The Brooklyn Center Police Department manual cites the Glock 17, 19 and 26 as standard-issue for the department. All three pistol models weigh significantly more than a typical Taser. Glocks also have a trigger safety that can be felt when touching the trigger. Tasers do not. Grips on Tasers are typically different from those of firearms, as well, though they may feel similar because both are usually made of a similar type of polymer.
Los Angeles police release bodycam video after a teen was killed at a Burlington
The Los Angeles Police Department released body camera footage of the fatal police shooting of a 14-year-old girl last week.
Body cam video shows them approaching, then a skip, then them shouting at him to roll over on his stomach, already shot. In other words, it does NOT contain the shooting.
The description in this AP article is disturbing:
The cop with the rifle seems to have had an agenda, IMO.
The kid apparently panicked after he saw he was being pursued.
Sounds like he had excess adrenaline to go with it.
That alone might account for the relative preponderance of “oops I shot him” incidents and the relative dearth of “oops I tased him” incidents.
Judging from the audio, the video is paused just a fraction of a second before the cop pulls the trigger. Do you imagine there’s something critical contained in the subsequent second of video that will help improve our understanding of the incident?
I agree with this. He wanted to be the guy out in front, and then went ahead and shot the perp before he could ever evaluate whether there was a gun in the perp’s hand, or what might be beyond him. I wonder if a round from a handgun instead would have been stopped by the wall?
Do you not question why they omitted it? Is THAT not the relevant portion? And it is more than a fraction of a second.
The video that @PastTense posted above includes all the audio and video of the shots being fired. I wonder if MSN themselves edited the clip because they thought it was too shocking for broadcast? If you really want to see it jump forward to 29:20.
From the AP story:
LAPD edited the video.
I haven’t seen anything obviously edited out in the video PastTense linked to in this post.
You can hear the girl screaming in the background.
Other articles says that is the mother screaming.
I’ve always assumed that the media take it upon themselves to edit out moments that are considered too graphic for a general audience. The media also hardly ever show people being killed or mangled in non-police incidents such as vehicle-pedestrian collisions; the one notable exception seems to be plane crashes, which I guess are somehow regarded as less shocking since we typically don’t see bodies being shattered.
The money shot in which you seem so interested is at 1:06 in this version:
Since the entire clip can be seen here, and the blurring of the beating victim and the shot suspect isn’t present in other versions, I would conclude that I’m right, i.e. that the version of the video provided by the LAPD is completely uncensored, and all of the blurring and cutting is being done in various ways by independent news media organizations so as to render the footage less horrifying for their audiences. If you really want to see the entire unblurred, uncut video, I’m sure someone out there has it online (LiveLeak used to host this kind of thing, but they’re gone now). Otherwise, you might consider filing a FOIA request to get your own copy.
As for whether the actual instant of the trigger-pull is relevant to understanding the whole situation, I’d say it’s of almost negligible relevance compared to the minute or so of footage preceding it.
Here’s my takeaway from that video, although this is no new news for people reading this thread. At the beginning the cops are walking through the store yelling at the suspect. Way to de-escalate a tense situation guys. And you wonder why there was a shooting.
I subscribe to Virtual Railfan and a couple months ago a pedestrian was struck by a train in Elkhart, Indiana. I don’t know if it was fatal or not but there was a police investigation. The incident was recorded on one of the cameras and VR posted it on YouTube to aid in the authorities’ work.
It was a private video, not findable by the public, and not even us folk who have paid subscriptions could see it – you had to be given the URL. YouTube said it violated their TOS and took the whole channel down, not just Elkhart but everything. It took twelve hours worth of appeals to get the channel restored.