Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

Well, he was concussed, so his memory of the incident will not be particularly clear.

His conscious memory may not be clear, but the event will have penetrated to his unconscious mind, so that the lesson of avoiding or running away from the police is probably well and deeply seated.

A Wall Street Journal reporter engaging in criminal activity:

Isn’t the Wall Street Journal tough on crime?

Arrested for being black on a sunny day?

Sir, you are under arrest for over-tanning.
dang sun-stealers

The officer telling the bystander that she was going to be arrested for filming the arrest is just icing on the cake.

Cops are bullies and criminals

In the old days, the officer would have just smashed her camera, exposed the film and then arrested her on some bullshit charge that he lied about. And there would be nothing anyone could do about it.

Now, the person filming just has to calmly tell the criminal officer that the video is being played live, or uploaded to the cloud.

Arizona has a special breed of asshole in this regard. The state passed a law that says you can’t record the police within 8 feet. The ACLU immediately sued, and the state more or less acknowledged it was a bullshit, unconstitutional law. That hasn’t stopped the police from trying to enforce the law that’s not yet, and probably never going to be, on the books.

8 feet is really, really close.

Not only is 8 feet nothing like “really, really close”, but as far as the police are concerned, if they can see you, you are closer than 8 feet. If there are several officers, one will walk toward you and say you are too close – “you are within 8’ of me!

Really? 2 foot closer and I get your covid. It is close enough to be in the way of lawful police action, and in danger from a suspect AND lawful police action. I get that filming them is a good thing, but not THAT damn close.

Hell, you would need to step back a few feet to get everything in the frame.

Not if you hold it the way you are supposed to. Stop holding the damn thing vertically.

The problem is the law only singles out people recording. So standing within 8 feet is fine, but whip out your cell phone and now you’re a danger.

Hear, hear.

I would support legislation which bans the recording of police activity in portrait mode.

Thin blue line holds again. Special prosecutor stops the case before it goes to the grand jury. Police destroy evidence, but that’s merely suspicious, not a crime in and of itself. Imagine anyone else destroying evidence and then waltzing away.

From the linked article:

Cunha said Tuesday that because the two officers involved deleted their text messages from the day of the incident, there was no way to acquire the evidence necessary to prosecute, the Globe reported.

I thought that stuff was always recoverable. Or is that only for civilians?

Its bullshit. If he thought there was no evidence, he could have let it go the grand jury and let them no bill it. He took it out their hands because…he’s in someone’s pocket. Probably wants a police endorsement for his next candidacy.

Despite some high profile cases, for prosecutors it’s :see_no_evil::hear_no_evil::speak_no_evil: when it comes to police officers. They believe they are on the same team.