Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

An Atlanta-area man was tased in the course of a traffic stop. Apparently, the encounter went something like

Sign the ticket! You gotta sign the ticket!
“Okay, I will sign the ticket”
Sign it! You gotta sign it, dammit!
“Yeah, yeah, look, I’m signing it”
(he’s not signing the ticket fast enough <ZAP>)

The man later died of complications exacerbated by the tasing.

Cant cops just write ‘subject refused to sign’ on them? Its on body-cam, fercrissakes.

Signing the ticket is ageement that you will either pay the fine or appear in court to contest it. If you fail to sign, they are obligated to arrest you.

That’s true in some states, not all.

I think it’s fair to note that the bodycam video has not been released to the public yet, and that the description of the encounter is based on what the family’s attorney said after (presumably) seeing the video (the article is short on facts, it is only implied that the attorney saw the video). The GBI is still investigating.

Cops are lying, murdering sacks of shit, protected by the government, who are also lying murdering sacks of shit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-officers-won-t-face-charges-in-fatal-shooting-of-protester-at-cop-city/ar-AA1hNk5f?ocid=windirect&cvid=009fa318118a475786ac8d2cf680ac89&ei=11

Cops said protestor fired first and they responded by a barrage of gunfire. Autopsy shows protestor had no gsr on hands and had hands up when shot.

And in Atlanta…

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/atlanta-police-officer-arrested-charged-with-assaulting-teen-after-responding-to-wreck/ar-AA1hOjln?ocid=windirect&cvid=47d94cea710b4928b0c35595513e2f73&ei=10

An Atlanta police officer was charged with sexual battery Thursday after a 16-year-old girl accused him of assaulting her after he responded to a traffic accident involving the girl in early August.

The police investigation concluded Thursday when Anderson was charged with Violation of Oath of Office, Cruelty to Children (2nd degree), Aggravated Sexual Battery, and Aggravated Sodomy.

Don’t sleep in your car in a Spokane Valley park parking lot unless you are ready to get your ass beat by asshole cops. And, just remember, it’s just a few bad apples that all show up together and turn off their mics in coordination. The whole damn bunch is spoiled.

Here is the cop’s body cam footage.

After the beating, the deputies turned off their audio while discussing the situation and smiling.

Those cops are absolute tyrants and deserves prison time.

I’ll say it again. The police officers should not have the ability to turn off their body cams. When they do need to be turned off for various legit reasons, there can be a departmental policy on how that’s handled, but at the very least, it should require a specific reason and a second person signing off on it.

I also like the idea that if an officer turns it off, the judge/jury/defense attorney should be allowed to make the assumption that the officer is lying/hiding something and, similarly, whatever they’re charged with should be ‘aggravated’.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colorado-officer-found-guilty-in-elijah-mcclain-death/ar-AA1i7Y3q?ocid=windirect&cvid=2933819b0f194bbda1c9b05b823b5e56&ei=24

Cop found guilty in death of Elijah McClain

I just saw a chyron on the local news channel,

      Crime down in (our large city) amid officer shortage

Now, what an odd coincidence. Those two things could not possibly be related.

Could they?

Long story short: a first amendment auditor was standing on a public sidewalk and peacefully filming a courthouse. She was detained and arrested. She sued, and rightfully so. Here is the deposition by Sgt Jennifer Larson, who was one of the officers on the scene. In the clip, Sgt Larson is being questioned by the plaintiff’s attorney. The attorney does an excellent job, and easily proves that she’s as dumb as a box of rocks.

It’s truly incredible just how ignorant Sgt Larson is on what’s lawfully required to detain or arrest someone. It’s a systemic problem, though, in that (IMO) most officers are just as ignorant. Are they not taught the basics of law? Why do they not understand constitutionally-protected rights?

If I were as incompetent in my job as they are in their job, I would be fired within a week.

I saw that on youtube. Her co-defendant and superior, a man with 22 years experience, claimed never to arrested anyone never read anyone their rights. He said he could not recite the Miranda warning. They were both lying.

But it does force us to ask the question. How can someone enforce the law if they do not know what it is?

Excessive adherence to the law is a serious impediment to Law Enforcement. It might be helpful in law enforcement, but that’s not what Law Enforcement is about.

I think I could recite the Miranda warning, just by watching American movies.
Here the police just say “The time is 18:44 and you are under arrest”. The time is because you have the right to see a judge in under 24 hours.
How dumb must a cop be to not have the Miranda warning memorised?

Some departments figure they’re dumb enough that they need to carry a little card with the warning printed up, so they can read it to the arrestee and get it right.

They are not dumb, they are playing dumb. Plausible deniability (even barely plausible) and qualified immunity (if even more barely qualified) are powerful weapons in the fight against accountability, which seems to be the top priority for Law Enforcement.

That, and “officer safety.” They seem obsessed with it, and justify all of their actions (lawful or not) with “officer safety.”

Reading from the card isn’t dumb at all. If I was a defense lawyer, one of the first questions I’d ask a questioning officer is if they read the warning or did it from memory. If they answered “memory” I’d immediately move for dismissal of charges based on my client not being advised of their rights.

Cops should READ it every single time.