Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

I wish I could step in and render judgement in cases like this.

I would get the name of the border guard who made this decision, and immediately seize his car. I’d do it while he was in the middle of nowhere, and tell him “too bad, so sad, have a nice walk”.

An eye for an eye.

Things are out of control in Greenville, NC! That goat had nothing to do with the break-in; he just saw the broken window and wanted to make sure nobody was stealing stuff!

It amazes me that we have the constitutional right to be secure from unreasonable seizures, and can have our property taken from us at any time, with no compensation, as long as the government says “you used this for crime”.

Well, if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not, you might get it back.

Why am I the first to -=Link=- to the killing in Minnesota on Sunday. The policeman shouted “Taser, Taser, Taser,” and then shot the man. She obviously made a mistake. There can be little doubt.

But the local police chief called it an “accidental discharge.” I know what the heck an “accidental discharge” is. This is not one of those. The officer aimed and fired. The weapon did not malfunction.

When you kill someone by mistake, that is roughly what manslaughter is.

@Snowboarder_Bo linked to it above.

Yeah, I seem to have a reading problem too.

What the hell good is a police body-cam if it’s not automatically on (with no override possible) 100% of the time, no exception? I honestly did not know for quite a while that police body-cams were ever off. How is that tolerated?

BTW, I do not believe that all of that 24-7 raw footage should be available to anyone, no-questions-asked. Instead, some police/citizen review board or whatever would have the unfortunate task of figuring it out.

Yeah, yaknow, hmmmmmm. This sucks. I do think some entity should have the power to prevent just any insignificant body-cam video coming to light, but I have no idea who that should be entrusted with that power.

In any event, my first point holds no matter who vets the video for release. To wit–automatically record every millisecond of every cop’s every moment on duty.

“,.,got a reading problem…”

Can relate. Starts small, birthday cards, comic books. Next you know, you’re shivering in the cold outside the library,waiting for it to open…

Are you under the impression that policemen go through their entire shift without using restroom?

I think we can ALL agree that a cop who cannot tell the difference between a taser and handgun should NOT be a cop under any circumstances.

Her…

Oh shit, I just shot him.”

That’s a perfect example of irrelevant body-cam video that should never be released publicly.

I think that most policemen would prefer that that video not be accessible even to the entity in charge of reviewing video for release, and probably most non-policemen, too. Less frivolously, police sometimes do things like visit the domestic violence shelter to take complaints. That’s another video that should definitely never be released (because you don’t want abusers to learn the location of the shelter), but I think most victims would rather it wasn’t taken in the first place.

I’m not pro-policeman, but I can definitely see why it’s possible for them to turn off their cameras.

Not without prior permission and/or notification first.

Of course not. Based on how often many cops’ body cameras seem to be turned off, it seems that many think the world is their restroom and are just peeing everywhere, all the time.

I think it would be interesting if qualified immunity were contingent on having a functioning, enabled body camera and cops who apparently “went to the restroom” right before an “unfortunate” encounter would by default be held personally liable.

I’d be for that, if it’s what it takes.

And really, the vast majority of encounters people do not get abused. But when things go wrong, they really go wrong.

It’s not like the body cam is going to see anything, given the way it is positioned.

Has there been a poll done of victims of domestic violence that indicates that this is the case?

Their name and location is in the report that the cop takes, so if they are worried about someone tracking them down through hacking the police’s “mainframe” or something, they are already exposed.

A recording would ensure that they victim’s statement is accurately reported, rather than interpreted by a potentially biased or unsympathetic cop.

But, if there are cases where a cop turns off their camera, that should be the exception, rather than the rule.