Some people don’t understand Method Acting.
Dallas:
There’s an apocryphal tale that Ford also suggested to Spielberg that:
And it you don’t like the ‘just shoot him’ idea, I could also just spontaneously shit my pants.’
Spielberg, allegedly, pooh-poohed the idea.
not even a syllable of the above is true, but it had a subtle veneer of truth to it, didn’t it ?
This guy deserved to get shot. Hell, I woulda shot him.
But I gotta ask, would ANY cop have waited that long to shoot him if he had been black.
Elizabeth City, NC:
WHAT THE FUCK???
YES, IT DOES MATTER! And we can know “what had happened or what went wrong”, you ignorant moron: there are recordings.
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FFS, why do so many Americans seem committed to being stupid?
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You know, I was thinking the same thing. But then I thought, cops (of all races) probably handle incidents like this involving people (of all races) without causing needless fatalities or injuries every day, and we never hear about it.
The ones we do hear about are more than enough to be outraged about.
The sale of replica handguns should be banned (or at least a very high tax on them), especially toys
I doubt that any modern western society has less educated police than the US.
What are the entrance requirements?
It seems like you may have intelligence issues that prevent you from having a coherent conversation–I wish you the best. I can only assume this because a person of ordinary intelligence would not read the statement “American police are far more trained in firearms than British police” to mean what you appear to think it meant. Since I cannot improve your intelligence I can only exit from discourse with you.
They’re gonna call me sir they’ll all stop picking on me
Well I’m a high school grad I’m over 5 foot 3
I’ll get a badge and a gun and I’ll join the P.D.
They’ll seeGod is a Bullet by Concrete Blonde
The post was about firearms training, not about education.
But since you asked… As with everything, varies per state and city. There is no “US Police” but some examples from various cities and states:
Chicago Police
New Jersey State Police
NYPD
Houston Police Dept
CHP
Miami-Dade
They’ve been allowed to defend their aggression on the grounds that the job is dangerous. “You punks wouldn’t understand - it’s a dangerous job. Just stay out of our way.” Unfortunately, for far too long, a majority of this society has been too been deferential. Knowing how violent our society is, we assume that police need aggression to stay alive.
…and that’s kinda the point. When you have 17 thousand different police agencies I think a statement like this:
can’t be backed up, and I don’t really think they hold water. For example I know that NZ police recieve about 80 hours of firearms training at Police College along with ongoing certification, etc.
But in the US you’ve got things going on like this:
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1385292068029927426
Many US police officers, as a whole, may well be “far more trained in firearms and what to do if confronting with a criminal with a gun” than they are here. But that ignores the quality of that training, it ignores the many and obvious gaps in the training, it ignores the inconsistency between departments, and it ignores the obvious agenda of police unions and people like Dave Grossman who thinks that “the best sex is after killing a person.”
After everything I’ve seen over the last few years I’d take our training and recruitment processes over anything I’ve seen in the States, especially in regards to firearms. The American system is fundamentally broken.
Which, in the end, is a chicken/egg thing. I have seen videos of protests which were almost entirely just people in the street marching, holding signs and shouting, and then there was a line of police, and it was pretty clear that the police instigated the “riot”.
In other words, police cause violence and crime, both directly and indirectly. They have to, in order to justify their “dangerous” jobs. There would be some measure of disorder without them, but I believe that they bear no small responsibility for a significant fraction of the disorder that that are “fighting”. I mean, I dare you to find a police officer who agrees that we should end the “war on drugs”.
I personally would love to see a clever lawyer put together a nice little class action lawsuit that ultimately bankrupts that sonofabitch. It’s probably a long shot given that he’ll be able to defend his “training” on first amendment free speech grounds, but suppose someone smart enough could establish that he went beyond training and encouraged outright lawlessness among the ranks of America’s police forces.
Racist Sheriff tells racist lie, then retracts when it turns out to be a MUCH bigger deal than he thought it would be.
Governor demands investigation.
Santiago-Miranda “was unfit to serve as a sheriff’s deputy and carry a weapon in that capacity” due to an arrest record for burglary as well as an alleged history of domestic violence against his estranged wife, in the presence of children.
Florida’s finest. I mean, you can be arrested for burglary and still sign on the Sheriff’s department?
Santiago-Miranda turned on his lights just before he got out of his vehicle with his weapon drawn, according to the lawsuit. Deputy Carson Hendren did not activate her lights at all and neither activated sirens, the lawsuit says.
He got out of his car with his weapon drawn. That says it all. He had already determined that they were dangerous. Because they were black. HE escalated the traffic stop into something far worse.
Best not be talking to 911 if you are dark colored:
Just when you thoughts couldn’t suck any more.
Rutherford County, North Carolina, December 2020:
Fugitive felon Ethan Calton has multiple warrants for a variety of crimes. Sheriff’s deputies locate him. A few minutes after they arrive, he is dead.
The sheriff describes a scene where Calton sees the deputies coming, unholsters his weapon, and threatens them. In the physical struggle that follows, Calton is shot and killed.
Witness statements after the shooting describe a very different scene: Calton was working on a car, and deputies rolled up on him unseen with no announcement. All but one of the deputies grabbed Calton from behind. The final deputy, Tyler Greene, then shouted police, and shot him in the back. Calton’s holstered weapon was never in his hand.
In the days that followed, additional information emerged: Calton was actually personally associated with Greene. He had previously told friends that Greene routinely kept him informed of police activities in the area, thereby facilitating Calton’s drug-related activities. Related to other investigations into Greene’s unit and associated deputies, Calton told friends he feared for his life at the hands of the law, evidently because he was a loose thread that needed to be tied off.
https://rccatalyst.com/additional-questions-emerge-in-rc-fatal-police-shooting/
In January, the county medical examiner wrote up his autopsy results. That report has now been made public. One of the findings: a “muzzle stamp” at the entry point, indicating that the deputy’s weapon was up against Calton’s body.
This completely blows up the sheriff’s official story. If Calton were indeed brandishing a firearm as the deputies approached, as stated, there is no way a physical struggle would occur, followed by a close-up gunshot. The deputies would have unholstered their weapons and shot him from a distance. But the sheriff wants us to believe Calton was waving his gun at the deputies, and the deputies ran up in the face of that threat and tried to grab him and disarm him, and the resulting gunshot was an unfortunate consequence of the chaos.
Instead, the real story seems very clear: Grotesquely corrupt police department colludes with drug criminals for predictable benefits (money, drugs, sex). When their scheme threatens to be revealed, they hunt down one of the felons whose activity would be most damaging to them, and execute him.