What an utter fucking moron you are. Even when the actual physical evidence refutes his claim, you still believe the constable’s story. Shooting blindly into a room is grossly irresponsible, that guy should not be allowed near a blunt letter opener, much less a firearm.
Grieved, you fucking asshole, grieved. You keep pretending there was something wrong the poor child did that got him killed, when what got him killed was a nervous cop on the edge. There is no solution to this problem-only death.
So your solution is to throw your hands up in defeat and declare it inevitable that your child will be killed by the police.
I choose to seek a better path.
Which it was not proven that he did. Why do you choose to believe the prosecutors’ side of the story despite any corroborating evidence?
God, Smapti, your continual lies and goal-post shifting are pathetic. If you really believe this stuff why do you have to lie about it so damn often?
I’ve done no such thing.
Is it also your belief that the best advice you can give your children is “Someday, the police will murder you and there’s nothing you can do to stop it”?
Your “better path” is a police state with just as many(if not many more) dead civilians, and no questions being asked. The advice you just gave in the Rice situation was to ignore what the police say and make movements contrary to their instructions, which probably would have yielded the same deadly results in the 2 seconds given the child.
Lies again, dickwad. We are saying that no advice in this particular situation would have stopped Officer Itchy Triggerfinger from gunning down that child. Doing exactly what the officer said got the child gunned down.
Can we stipulate the following:
1- The toy gun was in the boy’s pants
2- The police told him to drop the gun
Based on the above, your advice to drop to the ground and put your hands behind your head is nonsensical. It ISN’T what the cop said to do. There’s no reason to think he wasn’t trying to comply by reaching for the toy in order to drop it. Why is this so hard to understand?
Then we can rest assured that the officer will be found guilty of manslaughter.
Inform me as to when that happens, as, per your insistence, it inevitably shall.
I never insisted any such thing, you lying shitwad. Quote me, you lying shitwad. I quote you all the time when you lie, you lying shitwad.
…So you’re saying you’ve never quoted me?
We don’t share your confidence that the justice system is actual fair and reasonable in these matters, considering its history with regards to the treatment of black people.
And you do lie, repeatedly. You lied when you said that if the boy had obeyed the cops he would be alive – even now you’re admitting that he should not have followed the cops’ instructions.
I will confess that I erred; the specific instruction was “put your hands up”, not “drop the gun”. It matters little; instead of obeying the officers, he chose to grab for the gun and he paid the price.
Do you continue to insist that if he had put his hands up, the cops would have shot him anyway because they were just that rarein’ to go to kill theyselves a black person?
I think the shit you use for brains is leaking into your ears and blocking your hearing.
I think you’ve become too emotional to examine this on an objective, fact-based level.
No, you can’t stipulate either of those things, because they are both false. There was no toy gun - Airsoft guns are not by any reasonable definition toys - and he was not told to drop the gun, I’ve no idea who started saying that but there’s no evidence for it. What did happen, according to the reports, is that Rice was told to freeze, and instead reached for his (reported as, and looked like, real) gun.
Now tell me exactly why, in that situation, it was wrong to shoot him. Any reasonable person would have felt their life was at risk at that moment. All this thread is doing is proving just how many unreasonable people there are on this board when it comes to expecting the police to just stand there and be shot.
As for the idiotic “police state” comments, a state where you are expected to do what the police say and seek remedy in court later if your rights have been breached or you have been harmed is not a police state. Neither is one where elected officials control the police, and juries of citizens decide whether, in the case of a killing, the killer should face charges and be convicted.
My better path is no dead civilians, because people who don’t deserve to die shouldn’t be fighting the police in a scenario where they can’t win.
Yep, that was the officer’s story. The video tells a revised story, though:
So we don’t know what, if anything, was said, and he wasn’t reaching into his waistband, but towards his waist.
Fact: a cute 12 year old kid was playing at a local park when the police drove up and shot him, then watched him die.
ETA: anyone who can read that and not become emotional should bow out.