Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

My answer to that question is “I don’t know”, but it’s not necessary to answer it to decide if the shooter should be charged. I agree with Judge Adrine, and I trust his understanding of the law and this case far better than yours.

“But I have this memory of a leprechaun being there. False memory is a thing that has been studied, so therefore because research.”

“Who are you going to believe : me, or your lying eyes ?”

So, if the prosecutor decides not to take it to a grand jury, will you then agree with him?

Leprechauns don’t exist. People threatening cops with guns do.

Another fail on your part.

I don’t see either one on that video.

It depends on the information and evidence. If there’s not additional evidence that exonerates the shooter, then I’ll probably continue to agree with Judge Adrine that the shooter should be charged.

The video is proof enough for me. Straight-up contradicts their testimony and shows they didn’t give any warning, just got out and shot.

Look who’s suddenly a believer in mindreading…

I have no idea if you’re a man or a woman. And I’m sure you’d rim a WPC just as eagerly as you’d give a K9 a handy…it’s not the gender (or species) of the cop in question, it’s the badge that gets you hot, AFAICT.

I’ll believe that when I see evidence.

Yeah, why am I so bigoted against bigots…

Oh, yeah…if you hate racists, you’re the racist. Same tune (played on a thin blue skin flute, natch)

Watch the video and combine it with their contradictory testimony

Look at Mr “‘Blacks are subhuman’ isn’t inherently racist” lecturing me on what’s reasonable :rolleyes:

I don’t get, if the right if self-defense is so absolute, why the cops shouldn’t shoot everybody on the scene as soon as they arrive, just in case. That’s basically Steophan’s and Smapti’s argument, reinforced every time one of them says that our questioning the actions of the police implies we believe they have no right (or a reduced right) to self defense.

Seriously, how may times has one of them stated this, as in post 4421?

Really? You can tell from the video with no sound recording that they didn’t warn him?

I suppose you also think Tamir had no idea the cops were approaching him, because the car made absolutely no sound as it approached, and he couldn’t possibly have seen it before it entered the frame.

Zero times by my count.

Then arithmetic is among your many nontalents, you admit.

Leprechauns! WOOHOO! I want to party with you, dude.

I don’t know what you’re serving but I’ll have a double. :smiley:

The only thing that’s been served in this thread is you (and Smapti and Steophan, but is there a difference?).

No. He cannot be impartial because he depends on cooperation from the police. There needs to be a special prosecutor. Can you not see the obvious conflict of interest?

So you’ll only agree with an official body if they come to the conclusion that you’ve already decided must be true, regardless of what the facts are.

Roger.

No. I just want the appearance of justice, which is missing in your scenario.

Let me be more specific - they didn’t get out, warn him, then shoot, like they said, as the video clearly shows Tamir dropping before anyone’s even out of the car.

So it’s not justice you want, just the appearance of justice.